Re: [PIC]: stupid mistakes by olin

part 0 46 bytes This is a multi-part message in MIME format. part 1 1314 bytes content-type:text/plain; (decoded 7bit) Chen Xiao Fan wrote: > Promate 3 is pretty fast but it costs US$895 so Olin's > ProProg (US$295) may be a better deal as long as your chip > is supported (I think most 18Fs/dsPICs are supported by > ProProg). All the 30Fs are, and most of the mainstream 18F and 16F, but there are still some missing. I've attached my list of what is not yet supported. > I have only used PM3 with some 16F chips > so I am not so sure whether PM3 is much faster than PS+. > I think Olin should have data for ProProg. I've usually tried to pay attention to performance within reason. Some things I thought were just too much trouble for the limited return, like multiple simultaneous panel writes on a 18F252. Still, I think you'll find my programmers are a good chunk faster than a Picstart+. I think my grandmother would be faster toggling in the bits by hand. For example I remember that I can program a full 16F88 in about 14 seconds, which is twice as fast as a Picstart+ if I understood Jinx correctly. When I get back to my real office this afternoon I'll try to run some tests and publish the results. Actually it would be nice to compare various programmers. I'll make the HEX files I use available so that we can have a good apples to apples comparison. part 2 728 bytes content-type:text/plain; (decoded 7bit) Flash PICs not supported by the ProProg --------------------------------------- 12F508 DS41227D 509 16F54 DS41207C 16F57 DS41208B 59 DS41243A 16F72 DS39588A 16F73 DS30324B 74 76 77 16F83* DS30262E 16F84* 16F84A 16F505 DS41226E 16F737 DS30492B 747 767 777 16F785 DS41237A 16F818 DS39603C 819 16F913 DS41244B 914 916 917 18F2331 DS30500A 2431 4331 4431 18F6310 DS39624B 6390 6410 6490 8310 8390 8410 8490 18F6525 DS30499B 6621 8525 8621 18F6527 DS39643B 6622 6627 6722 8527 8622 8627 8722 18F6585 DS39606C 6680 8585 8680 part 3 35 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (decoded 7bit)