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'[AD:] Assembler programmer wanted - Full time'
2009\06\04@170841 by Denny Esterline

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Hey everybody,
I've been dormant on the list for a while, too busy at work. But I've
finally talked the powers that be into hiring another person, so maybe
that'll get better :-)


Remote Solutions LLC is looking to hire an embedded software developer
to work in their office in Tucson AZ. (http://www.safe-t-rack.com)
The successful candidate will have a strong background in embedded
development, specifically in Microchip PIC assembler and C
with a solid understanding of hardware. Additional experience in one
or more of the following would be advantageous:  PLCs, hardware
design, PCB layout, mechanical integration, or CAD.

Contact Denny Esterline
spam_OUTDenny.EsterlineTakeThisOuTspamSafe-T-Rack.com


Thanks

2009\06\04@194728 by Vitaliy

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I love the guy in the yellow bunny suit:

http://www.safe-t-rack.com/Safe-T-Rack_Remote_Racking_System_Images/mb_operator.jpg

And this guy looks like he just yelled "Fire in the hole!" and in a second
the blue box will be blown to smithereens:

http://www.safe-t-rack.com/Safe-T-Rack_Remote_Racking_System_Images/srn%20operator.jpg

:-)))))

So anyway, I'm curious -- why assembly?

Vitaliy

2009\06\04@210533 by M.L.

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Denny Esterline <.....desterlineKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com>wrote:

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Does "racking a circuit breaker" mean turning it off?
Do you really have to be far away from it if it's inside a metal box?
-
Martin

2009\06\04@213326 by Denny Esterline

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam.....maksimov.org> wrote:
> I love the guy in the yellow bunny suit:
>
> http://www.safe-t-rack.com/Safe-T-Rack_Remote_Racking_System_Images/mb_operator.jpg
>
> And this guy looks like he just yelled "Fire in the hole!" and in a second
> the blue box will be blown to smithereens:
>
> http://www.safe-t-rack.com/Safe-T-Rack_Remote_Racking_System_Images/srn%20operator.jpg
>
> :-)))))
>
> So anyway, I'm curious -- why assembly?
>
> Vitaliy
>

That's a 100 cal rated safety suit - we call them "meat bags".

As to assembly... We need to maintain some legacy code, I have a long
term plan to... let's just say "Make some changes".

-Denny

2009\06\04@214455 by Denny Esterline

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>>
>>
> Does "racking a circuit breaker" mean turning it off?
> Do you really have to be far away from it if it's inside a metal box?
> -

"Racking" a circuit breaker is the process of installing or removing
it from the "cubicle". On some sites this is done very rarely (maybe
less than once/year) on other sites it may be done more than once a
day as a part of the site safety procedures when maintaining some
piece of equipment.

Some of this equipment is running 15kV at 3000A. When something bad
happens, several pounds of copper turns from solid to vapor in a few
milliseconds. Metal box or no, I don't want to stand next to it. And
some equipment requires the door to be open while racking.


-Denny

2009\06\04@224008 by solarwind

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Denny Esterline <EraseMEdesterlinespam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> Some of this equipment is running 15kV at 3000A. When something bad
> happens, several pounds of copper turns from solid to vapor in a few
> milliseconds. Metal box or no, I don't want to stand next to it. And
> some equipment requires the door to be open while racking.

What's using all that electricity?

2009\06\04@225448 by Vitaliy

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Denny Esterline wrote:
>>>
>> Does "racking a circuit breaker" mean turning it off?
>> Do you really have to be far away from it if it's inside a metal box?
>> -
>
> "Racking" a circuit breaker is the process of installing or removing
> it from the "cubicle". On some sites this is done very rarely (maybe
> less than once/year) on other sites it may be done more than once a
> day as a part of the site safety procedures when maintaining some
> piece of equipment.
>
> Some of this equipment is running 15kV at 3000A. When something bad
> happens, several pounds of copper turns from solid to vapor in a few
> milliseconds. Metal box or no, I don't want to stand next to it. And
> some equipment requires the door to be open while racking.

That's pretty scary. So the body bag protects from the explosion as well as
from the UV & electricity?

OT: The site says "Copyright © 2006 Remote Solutions, LLC"

Might want to tell the web developer to put some code in, to auto-update the
year.

Vitaliy

2009\06\05@011615 by Rolf

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Vitaliy wrote:
> Denny Esterline wrote:
>  
>>> Does "racking a circuit breaker" mean turning it off?
>>> Do you really have to be far away from it if it's inside a metal box?
>>> -
>>>      
> OT: The site says "Copyright © 2006 Remote Solutions, LLC"
>
> Might want to tell the web developer to put some code in, to auto-update the
> year.
>
> Vitaliy
>
>  
Uhm, no.

You do not want to do that (automatically).

What you do want to do is to ensure you understand copyright law.
Changing the date to 2009 will just confuse people when it goes to
court, and could lead to misunderstandings as to when copyrighted
material was authored. Automatically updating a copyright notice is not
something you want to do... and may in fact get you in to some serious
predicaments.

Rolf


2009\06\05@084259 by Carl Denk

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Was said:

>>  On some sites this is done very rarely (maybe
>> less than once/year)
This was an annual scheduled maintenance to remove all breakers, inspect
and test at the Ford plant that I worked. They wanted to ensure that
when need be, that breaker would open as necessary. I think the voltage
was 11.5 KV. Each breaker supplied a large transformer, one of a dozen
that supplied a 50 acre engine plant full of big motors, and a casting
plant with electric furnaces.

2009\06\05@085607 by Gerhard Fiedler

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solarwind wrote:

>> Some of this equipment is running 15kV at 3000A. When something bad
>> happens, several pounds of copper turns from solid to vapor in a few
>> milliseconds. Metal box or no, I don't want to stand next to it. And
>> some equipment requires the door to be open while racking.
>
> What's using all that electricity?

We ... :)

Gerhard

2009\06\05@110109 by Denny Esterline

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>
> What's using all that electricity?
> --
It varies from site to site. Power plants use them on the generators
of course, but they also have lots of them for secondary systems -
pumps and blowers etc. Transmission and distribution sites
(substations) have them, as well as the mining and industry field. Of
course the 15kV 3000A is about the biggest, on the small side they go
down to about 480v 500A.

-Denny

2009\06\05@111336 by Denny Esterline

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>> Some of this equipment is running 15kV at 3000A. When something bad
>> happens, several pounds of copper turns from solid to vapor in a few
>> milliseconds. Metal box or no, I don't want to stand next to it. And
>> some equipment requires the door to be open while racking.
>
> That's pretty scary. So the body bag protects from the explosion as well as
> from the UV & electricity?
>

That's the idea, but the suit isn't a very effective solution. It can
protect from the burns and the UV, but there's not much that can
protect from the concussive force of the explosion.

But don't let that scare anyone off, all of our test cubicles here are
dead bus - safe.

If you're all interested, this is what happens when "something bad
happens"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_ear4k-Jg


-Denny

2009\06\05@112242 by Tamas Rudnai

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Denny Esterline <desterlinespamspam_OUTgmail.com>wrote:

> But don't let that scare anyone off, all of our test cubicles here are
> dead bus - safe.
>
> If you're all interested, this is what happens when "something bad
> happens"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_ear4k-Jg
>

Yeah, we are not scared anymore :-) Thanks for the video :-)

Tamas
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2009\06\15@115011 by Denny Esterline

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Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
let's explore this from another angle.

If this list isn't the best place to look for experianced PIC
programmers, where would you suggest?
Was there something about the way I worded the offer that was
off-putting? Are there any suggestions for improvement?


Thanks,
-Denny

2009\06\15@122307 by Tamas Rudnai

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I would interested but I have no green card to the US :-)

Tamas


On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Denny Esterline <@spam@desterlineKILLspamspamgmail.com>wrote:

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2009\06\15@123155 by Terry Harris

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:50:10 -0700, you wrote:

>Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
>responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
>looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
>scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
>let's explore this from another angle.

Did I read there are about 2k subscribers (+some readers of web mirrors)
world wide?

What proportion think they could do the job, and are looking for a job, and
think where ever you are is a possible location for a new job?

I would be surprised if you got more than a couple of responses.

I don't remember much about your original post but thought specifically
asking for an assembler programmer was a bit strange. Embedded systems
programmer with experience in .....   sounds more plausible to me.

2009\06\15@123158 by olin piclist

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Denny Esterline wrote:
> Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
> responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
> looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
> scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
> let's explore this from another angle.

You were looking for someone full time on site.  That rules out a lot of
people on this list.  Most people won't meet all of your criteria of nearby,
experienced PIC assembly programmer, and available to do something else from
what they are doing now and to do it full time.

Does it really really need to be done on site?  Most managers immediately
assume that, but it's often not necessary when you carefully think about it.
It may force you to better define and separate a project or subsystem, but
that is often a good thing that is too often let slide when done in house
anyway.  We routinely do remote development and may be able to help.  Give
me a call even if you just want to kick around how something like that could
work out.


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Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products
(978) 742-9014.  Gold level PIC consultants since 2000.

2009\06\15@124303 by jim

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Denny,

I would like to have the job, but I don't want to relocate.
I'll send you  a copy of my resume later, but now I have an appointment to
see to.
Let me  know if you're interested.


Regards,   Jim




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2009\06\15@132355 by Vitaliy

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Denny Esterline wrote:
> Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
> responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
> looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
> scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
> let's explore this from another angle.
>
> If this list isn't the best place to look for experianced PIC
> programmers, where would you suggest?
> Was there something about the way I worded the offer that was
> off-putting? Are there any suggestions for improvement?

Have you tried any other venues, like Craigslist?

It is hard to find good engineers, and even harder to find good programmers,
regardless of the state of the economy. The most alarming thing to me is the
declining quality of student projects. A year or so from now (whenever the
current crisis blows over), you can expect a real shortage of talent.

Vitaliy

2009\06\15@225839 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Vitaliy wrote:

> It is hard to find good engineers, and even harder to find good  
> programmers,
> regardless of the state of the economy.

Yeah, and when you're looking for a specialized skill (like PIC  
assembly language), you're likely to get a wake-up call on just how  
few people there are that HAVE that skill, much less are looking for a  
new job in the area.  You'd certainly have better luck looking for an  
embedded system programmer with experience in SOME assembly  
language(s) who could probably pick up PICs without much trouble.  You  
might have to put up with them grumbling that they'd rather be  
programming an AVR in C (ONE problem with "advanced PIC assembly  
developer" is that it's got a pretty low "ceiling" on your career...)

BillW

2009\06\16@041612 by cdb

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:: would interested but I have no green card to the US :-)

Ditto'ish, I'd prefer remote contract - unless any one wants me to move to New Zealand - South Island only thanks :)

Colin
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2009\06\16@042835 by Alan B. Pearce

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>unless any one wants me to move to New Zealand -
>South Island only thanks :)

Oh, I dunno, various parts of the North Island are very pleasant, like
Northland, Hawkes Bay, Bay of Plenty, ...

Alan (an old Wellingtonian) ...

2009\06\16@050339 by Richard Prosser

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> Ditto'ish, I'd prefer remote contract - unless any one wants me to move to New Zealand - South Island only thanks :)
>
> Colin
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> cdb, RemoveMEcolinTakeThisOuTspambtech-online.co.uk on 16/06/2009
>

If there are any jobs going in this neck of the woods, I'll be looking
myself from October!

RP (in Christchurch)

2009\06\16@054451 by cdb

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:: If there are any jobs going in this neck of the woods, I'll be
:: looking
:: myself from October!

Sort of OT, but Trimble have a 3 month contract for software/hardware destroying, advertised on Seek.

Colin
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2009\06\16@234502 by M. Adam Davis

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Denny Esterline<TakeThisOuTdesterlineEraseMEspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
> responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
> looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
> scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
> let's explore this from another angle.
>
> If this list isn't the best place to look for experianced PIC
> programmers, where would you suggest?

This is a great place, but you might try the microchip forums.

> Was there something about the way I worded the offer that was
> off-putting?

No, but you didn't put down, "Will pay for relocation", nor did you
put down a salary range.  Further, while _you_ indicate the job is
full time, the job description almost seems like a shortish long term
contract (say 1 year or so before the task is completed, then pack up
and look for another position).

> Are there any suggestions for improvement?

In general I ignore requests that don't offer relocation or
remote/contract work.

The job description appears to be fairly low level - someone with a
little bit of experience (3-5 years) in a narrow field seems to match.
My expectation, therefore, is you're probably not looking for an
experienced to very experienced (read: expensive) embedded systems
engineer.

Perhaps posting your salary expectations, or at minimum experience
level (so people can guess if they're in the right range) would help.

-Adam

2009\06\16@235712 by solarwind

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Denny Esterline <RemoveMEdesterlinespamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, so it's been more than a week and I received approximately zero
> responses to this. I find it inconceivable that there is no one
> looking for employment in this economy so I think either I really did
> scare everyone :-) or something about the offer was unappealing. So
> let's explore this from another angle.
>
> If this list isn't the best place to look for experianced PIC
> programmers, where would you suggest?
> Was there something about the way I worded the offer that was
> off-putting? Are there any suggestions for improvement?

Give me a month and I'll apply.

2009\06\17@020128 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:50, Denny Esterline <desterlineEraseMEspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there any suggestions for improvement?

Move your company to Sweden :-) :-)


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2009\06\17@052518 by Tamas Rudnai

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Rikard Bosnjakovic <
EraseMErikard.bosnjakovicspamgmail.com> wrote:

> Move your company to Sweden :-) :-)


Oh common, even Ericsson is moved to Hungary :-)

Tamas

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