Post by thread:[AD]: Just bought a REALLY KEWL mug (wa

Got mine.... Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Lile" <spam_OUTllileTakeThisOuTTOASTMASTER.COM> To: <.....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: [AD]: Just bought a REALLY KEWL mug (was: I'm not really a jerk) > Well I will be proud to slurp java out of my new PIClist mug. How 'bout you {Quote hidden}> other guys and gals? > > http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=piclist > > --Lawrence > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Newton. Admin 3" <jamesnewtonKILLspamPICLIST.COM> > To: <.....PICLISTKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ADMIN]: I'm not REALLY a jerk (was Re: [PIC]:Hamming codes) > > > > A quick word of thanks to EraseMEdalespam_OUTTakeThisOuTbotkin.org would be a good (minimal) start. > > If you feel moved to do more, there is the hall of fame at > > www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm > > It just so happens that Dale is a verified premier PayPal member. > > > > And I just fixed all the links on that page... again... damn PayPal > keeping > > changing the system. > > > > Enjoy the list while you have it... I don't see it lasting much longer. At > > least not without some more effort on the part of its members (read: > > volunteer to help admin, or make it more rewarding) and I have no faith > that > > our status at MIT will hold. I donate 50% of any proceeds from the sale of > a > > PICList T-shirt or mug to them. The rest should go to help pay for the > > bandwidth that piclist.com sucks up, but instead I funnel it into the new > > server. To date, guess how many list members have shown any interest in > > T-shirts or Mugs? > > > > To be fair, a few people have donated to the fund for a new server (which > by > > the way, has been running in its new home for about a week with no burps > and > > will be taking over archive searches as soon as I figure out directory > > replication over pptp) and a very few people have made BIG ($100-$500) > > donations. > > > > But as with the content of the list itself, a few people carry the burden > > for the rest. If you haven't done something to help, and you want the list > > to keep on, "don't just do something, sit there." At least say thanks to > MIT > > and Dale. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Martin Baker wrote: > > I just ordered one... maybe what is needed is collection of mugs with > assorted sigs and taglines from the group, many of which are very cool... > > > > To be fair, a few people have donated to the fund for a new server > > > > for the rest. If you haven't done something to help, and you want the > >list > > > > to keep on, "don't just do something, sit there." At least say thanks to > > > MIT > > > > and Dale. A big THANK YOU to MIT and Dale, and everyone else. You guys are great! :o) Selling mugs and t-shirts is cool but it's unlikely to ever amount to real compensation for the costs of running the list. Has anyone considered contacting Microchip and asking them for contribution?? Surely a few grand here and there would be nothing for a company of that size, and they could get some additional value from the list, maybe being able to add a "daily update" post each day or some other form of value added advertising on the list. Maybe an occasional post from a Microchip design guru? I wonder what percentage of their sales comes either directly or indirectly through this list? Maybe a deal could be worked out that really benefits all. -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

To be honest, I'm surprised they haven't gotten their lawyers involved with the name PIClist.com. Seriously, this may be a good idea, but I think it's important for the list to remain independant. I don't own it, but I don't think Microchip should have total control. Advertising is another matter however. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Roman Black wrote: {Quote hidden}> A big THANK YOU to MIT and Dale, and everyone > else. You guys are great! :o) > > Selling mugs and t-shirts is cool but it's unlikely > to ever amount to real compensation for the costs > of running the list. Has anyone considered contacting > Microchip and asking them for contribution?? > > Surely a few grand here and there would be nothing > for a company of that size, and they could get some > additional value from the list, maybe being able > to add a "daily update" post each day or some other > form of value added advertising on the list. Maybe > an occasional post from a Microchip design guru? > > I wonder what percentage of their sales comes either > directly or indirectly through this list? Maybe a > deal could be worked out that really benefits all. > -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Martin Peach wrote: > > Now isn't that exactly the worst possible thing that could happen? > Where's the independence then? > What was the argument against making the PICList a newsgroup? I forgot... > /\/\/\/*=Martin Sigh! Where did I mention losing independence? I believe that Microchip DO gain significant benefits from this list existing. Therefore if the list contacts them it has some negotiating power. It IS possible to imagine a deal where the list (and the fiercely independent users) :o) benefit, and Microchip reap benefits in terms of additional exposure and security that the list won't go belly up... -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

THere is already a discussion area on the Microchip website so they may not be too interested, but you never know. http://www.microchip.com/1000/tsupport/index.htm >>> martinrpspam_OUTVAX2.CONCORDIA.CA 02/06/02 05:53PM >>> You didn't, of course. It's just that everywhere else in the universe such collaboration occurs, there is a conflict of interest and things often get skewed. Say if Microchip had a forum-type discussion group on their web site, then they would be the moderator of it too, possibly not letting the less favourable posts appear. But maybe they are uniquely nice guys for a change. /\/\/\/*=Martin -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I dunno. CCS runs a web forum on their site, and they frequently get skewered. They do have the right to moderate, but very seldom actually do. Dale -- "Curiosity is the very basis of education and if you tell me that curiosity killed the cat, I say only the cat died nobly." - Arnold Edinborough On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Martin Peach wrote: > You didn't, of course. It's just that everywhere else in the universe such > collaboration occurs, there is a conflict of interest and things often get > skewed. Say if Microchip had a forum-type discussion group on their web > site, then they would be the moderator of it too, possibly not letting the > less favourable posts appear. But maybe they are uniquely nice guys for a > change. > /\/\/\/*=Martin -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads