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2002\02\06@150919 by Lawrence Lile

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Well I will be proud to slurp java out of my new PIClist mug.  How 'bout you
other guys and gals?

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=piclist

--Lawrence

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2002\02\06@152452 by Mark Skeels

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Got mine....

Mark

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From: "Lawrence Lile" <spam_OUTllileTakeThisOuTspamTOASTMASTER.COM>
To: <.....PICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: [AD]: Just bought a REALLY KEWL mug (was: I'm not really a jerk)


> Well I will be proud to slurp java out of my new PIClist mug.  How 'bout
you
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start.
> > If you feel moved to do more, there is the hall of fame at
> > www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm
> > It just so happens that Dale is a verified premier PayPal member.
> >
> > And I just fixed all the links on that page... again... damn PayPal
> keeping
> > changing the system.
> >
> > Enjoy the list while you have it... I don't see it lasting much longer.
At
> > least not without some more effort on the part of its members (read:
> > volunteer to help admin, or make it more rewarding) and I have no faith
> that
> > our status at MIT will hold. I donate 50% of any proceeds from the sale
of
> a
> > PICList T-shirt or mug to them. The rest should go to help pay for the
> > bandwidth that piclist.com sucks up, but instead I funnel it into the
new
> > server. To date, guess how many list members have shown any interest in
> > T-shirts or Mugs?
> >
> > To be fair, a few people have donated to the fund for a new server
(which
> by
> > the way, has been running in its new home for about a week with no burps
> and
> > will be taking over archive searches as soon as I figure out directory
> > replication over pptp) and a very few people have made BIG ($100-$500)
> > donations.
> >
> > But as with the content of the list itself, a few people carry the
burden
> > for the rest. If you haven't done something to help, and you want the
list
> > to keep on, "don't just do something, sit there." At least say thanks to
> MIT
> > and Dale.
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2002\02\06@154917 by Martin Baker

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I just ordered one... maybe what is needed is collection of mugs with
assorted sigs and taglines from the group, many of which are very cool...

M


At 02:26 PM 2/6/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Got mine....
>
>Mark
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2002\02\06@160659 by Chris Loiacono

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Didn't EVERYONE say they were going to show at least a small amount of
appreciation for the list *****the list that nobody makes $$ from, but sure
consumes a lot of $$ and effort?!!?*****
So, how many mugs did you say you ordered? Only one?

No one is going to spend more on a new mug design until all the old ones are
sold.....
Besides, the mug guy wants to be paid in cash - cash, what's that?

Chris

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2002\02\06@160909 by Roman Black

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Martin Baker wrote:
>
> I just ordered one... maybe what is needed is collection of mugs with
> assorted sigs and taglines from the group, many of which are very cool...

> > > > To be fair, a few people have donated to the fund for a new server

> > > > for the rest. If you haven't done something to help, and you want the
> >list
> > > > to keep on, "don't just do something, sit there." At least say thanks to
> > > MIT
> > > > and Dale.


A big THANK YOU to MIT and Dale, and everyone
else. You guys are great! :o)

Selling mugs and t-shirts is cool but it's unlikely
to ever amount to real compensation for the costs
of running the list. Has anyone considered contacting
Microchip and asking them for contribution??

Surely a few grand here and there would be nothing
for a company of that size, and they could get some
additional value from the list, maybe being able
to add a "daily update" post each day or some other
form of value added advertising on the list. Maybe
an occasional post from a Microchip design guru?

I wonder what percentage of their sales comes either
directly or indirectly through this list? Maybe a
deal could be worked out that really benefits all.
-Roman

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2002\02\06@162356 by Josh Koffman

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To be honest, I'm surprised they haven't gotten their lawyers involved
with the name PIClist.com. Seriously, this may be a good idea, but I
think it's important for the list to remain independant. I don't own it,
but I don't think Microchip should have total control. Advertising is
another matter however.

Josh

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Roman Black wrote:
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2002\02\06@163708 by Martin Peach

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Now isn't that exactly the worst possible thing that could happen?
Where's the independence then?
What was the argument against making the PICList a newsgroup? I forgot...
/\/\/\/*=Martin

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2002\02\06@170323 by BryanW

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I've just bought my MUG. I'm looking forward to the extra time I can waste
drinking my coffee :)

Bryan

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2002\02\06@171151 by Roman Black

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Martin Peach wrote:
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> Now isn't that exactly the worst possible thing that could happen?
> Where's the independence then?
> What was the argument against making the PICList a newsgroup? I forgot...
> /\/\/\/*=Martin

Sigh! Where did I mention losing independence?
I believe that Microchip DO gain significant
benefits from this list existing. Therefore if
the list contacts them it has some negotiating
power. It IS possible to imagine a deal where
the list (and the fiercely independent users) :o)
benefit, and Microchip reap benefits in terms
of additional exposure and security that the
list won't go belly up...
-Roman

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2002\02\06@173921 by Patrick Murphy

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Placed my order for one yesterday. I've learned a lot from this list;
my thanks to everyone who makes this list possible!
Patrick Murphy
James Valley Colony

Lawrence Lile wrote:
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> Well I will be proud to slurp java out of my new PIClist mug.  How 'bout you
> other guys and gals?
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=piclist
>
> --Lawrence

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2002\02\06@175256 by Martin Peach

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You didn't, of course. It's just that everywhere else in the universe such
collaboration occurs, there is a conflict of interest and things often get
skewed. Say if Microchip had a forum-type discussion group on their web
site, then they would be the moderator of it too, possibly not letting the
less favourable posts appear. But maybe they are uniquely nice guys for a
change.
/\/\/\/*=Martin

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2002\02\06@181739 by Eoin Ross

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THere is already a discussion area on the Microchip website so they may not be too interested, but you never know.

http://www.microchip.com/1000/tsupport/index.htm

>>> martinrpspamspam_OUTVAX2.CONCORDIA.CA 02/06/02 05:53PM >>>
You didn't, of course. It's just that everywhere else in the universe such
collaboration occurs, there is a conflict of interest and things often get
skewed. Say if Microchip had a forum-type discussion group on their web
site, then they would be the moderator of it too, possibly not letting the
less favourable posts appear. But maybe they are uniquely nice guys for a
change.
/\/\/\/*=Martin

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2002\02\06@200150 by Dale Botkin

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I dunno.  CCS runs a web forum on their site, and they frequently get
skewered.  They do have the right to moderate, but very seldom actually
do.

Dale
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curiosity killed the cat, I say only the cat died nobly."
         - Arnold Edinborough


On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Martin Peach wrote:

> You didn't, of course. It's just that everywhere else in the universe such
> collaboration occurs, there is a conflict of interest and things often get
> skewed. Say if Microchip had a forum-type discussion group on their web
> site, then they would be the moderator of it too, possibly not letting the
> less favourable posts appear. But maybe they are uniquely nice guys for a
> change.
> /\/\/\/*=Martin

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