> We still need a couple people, 300/650 agreed below. It's a great deal
> at $.25 a piece - $12.50 per 50 plus a reasonable shipping charge.
If the shipping to the Netherlands is not prohibitive and I can pay by
PayPal you can sign me up for the remainder, provided that it is at
least 100 pcs.
Should be a little above cost. I'm not running the show here though. I
believe Chetan Bhargava is?
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>We still need a couple people, 300/650 agreed below. It's a great deal
>at $.25 a piece - $12.50 per 50 plus a reasonable shipping charge.
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Do PICs get cheaper in quantities around 1000? The Microchip site only
lists for up to 100. I'm just wondering if it would be possible to do
something like this with an 8-pin flash Pic. Obviously, it wouldn't be as
cheap as 25 cents because the single unit prices are a lot higher for the
8-pin Pics.
At these prices, I'm tempted to get a tube of the ATtiny11's, but all I've
used are Pics, and it's just not worth having to learn a new assembly
language to get cheaper chips.
> Do PICs get cheaper in quantities around 1000? The
> Microchip site only
> lists for up to 100. I'm just wondering if it would be
> possible to do
> something like this with an 8-pin flash Pic. Obviously, it
> wouldn't be as
> cheap as 25 cents because the single unit prices are a lot
> higher for the
> 8-pin Pics.
>
> At these prices, I'm tempted to get a tube of the
> ATtiny11's, but all I've
> used are Pics, and it's just not worth having to learn a
> new assembly
> language to get cheaper chips.
>
> Jason
>
>
I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long to
ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for shipping
into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize the shipping
options.
I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long to
ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for shipping
into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize the shipping
options.
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:22 +1000, Liam O'Hagan <spam_OUTlohaganTakeThisOuTEraseMEgli.com.au> wrote:
>
> How much would you expect shipping to Australia to be?
>
> Cheapest price here is $2.90 apiece with $15 shipping! (or $9.95 each from
> Farnell...)
>
> If it's less than US$15 shipping I'll take 50.
>
I emailed Wouter, he said he may purchase some but he hasn't specified a
quantity. Shipping was $9 for 1 pound, USPS.
Chetan Bhargava wrote:
> I think Netherlands is not prohibited from USA :-) but I don't know
> how much will be the shipping to Netherlands.
>
> I have a paypal account that accepts transfer only (no credit card).
>
> Regards
Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of those
black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on an anti-
static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap envelope.
> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of those
> black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on an anti-
> static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap envelope.
>
> Mark Jordan
>
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2004 at 17:20, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>
>
>>The cheapest way to Australia would be USPS (http://www.usps.com)
>>
>>I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long to
>>ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for shipping
>>into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize the shipping
>>options.
>>
>>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> He probably doesn't have all that stuff unless you want to pay more for
> handling. I have no problem with getting split tubes taped on the end.
>
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> Mark Jordan wrote:
>
>> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of those
>> black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on an anti-
>> static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap envelope.
>>
>> Mark Jordan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2004 at 17:20, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The cheapest way to Australia would be USPS (http://www.usps.com)
>>>
>>> I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long to
>>> ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for shipping
>>> into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize the shipping
>>> options.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
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Yes, I agree, cut the tubes into 2-4 pieces and send them in a Jiffy bag
(padded). David
> He probably doesn't have all that stuff unless you want to pay more
> for handling. I have no problem with getting split tubes taped on the
> end.
>
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> Mark Jordan wrote:
>
>> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of
>> those black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on
>> an anti- static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap
>> envelope.
>>
>> Mark Jordan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2004 at 17:20, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The cheapest way to Australia would be USPS (http://www.usps.com)
>>>
>>> I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long
>>> to ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for
>>> shipping into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize
>>> the shipping options.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
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Liam - are you willing to send 50 on to NZ with postage added (or more if eg
Jinx gets in on this).
If so, I would take a tube of 50 too.
Maybe if there were enough NZ 'ers we could justify a bag-lot sent here
directly.
Easiest and safest packing method in a bag is, as already suggested, to cut
the tubes in N sections and tape the ends. Needs to be done by someone with
an awareness of basic electrostatic handling procedures.
> Yes, I agree, cut the tubes into 2-4 pieces and send them in a Jiffy bag
> (padded). David
>
> Martin Klingensmith wrote:
>
> > He probably doesn't have all that stuff unless you want to pay more
> > for handling. I have no problem with getting split tubes taped on the
> > end.
> >
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> > Mark Jordan wrote:
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> >> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of
> >> those black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on
> >> an anti- static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap
> >> envelope.
> >>
> >> Mark Jordan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 Jun 2004 at 17:20, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> The cheapest way to Australia would be USPS (http://www.usps.com)
> >>>
> >>> I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long
> >>> to ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for
> >>> shipping into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize
> >>> the shipping options.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
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No problem, postage from here anywhere in Australia is AU$6.30 if I remember
correctly...
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Liam - are you willing to send 50 on to NZ with postage added (or more if eg
Jinx gets in on this).
If so, I would take a tube of 50 too.
Maybe if there were enough NZ 'ers we could justify a bag-lot sent here
directly.
Easiest and safest packing method in a bag is, as already suggested, to cut
the tubes in N sections and tape the ends. Needs to be done by someone with
an awareness of basic electrostatic handling procedures.
> Yes, I agree, cut the tubes into 2-4 pieces and send them in a Jiffy
> bag (padded). David
>
> Martin Klingensmith wrote:
>
> > He probably doesn't have all that stuff unless you want to pay more
> > for handling. I have no problem with getting split tubes taped on
> > the end.
> >
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> > Mark Jordan wrote:
> >
> >> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on one of
> >> those black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on
> >> an anti- static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap
> >> envelope.
> >>
> >> Mark Jordan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 Jun 2004 at 17:20, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> The cheapest way to Australia would be USPS (http://www.usps.com)
> >>>
> >>> I would need suggestions on shipping as the tube would be too long
> >>> to ship as it is. I might have to break the tube into two for
> >>> shipping into a padded envelope. Also we would have to standardize
> >>> the shipping options.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
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> Take them out of the plastic tube and stick them on
> one of those
> black conductive foam (rubber?) sheets. Put the foam sheet on an anti-
> static plastic bag and ship it inside a bubble-wrap envelope.
For extra protection: insert the chips from *both* sides of the foam.
This will make it much less likely that the pins are bent.
On Jun 28, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
> If you guys end up above 650 anyway I might pass, otherwise I'll make
> sure you hit the 650. So you can be confident that the mass-buy will
> proceed :)
>
What's the required multiple? If we get above 650 do we have to hit
1300, or can we buy 750 at the $0.25 price?
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> On Jun 28, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
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> > If you guys end up above 650 anyway I might pass, otherwise I'll make
> > sure you hit the 650. So you can be confident that the mass-buy will
> > proceed :)
> >
> What's the required multiple? If we get above 650 do we have to hit
> 1300, or can we buy 750 at the $0.25 price?
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As the order list is almost full and might grow further, it is the
time to discuss the packaging and the extra charges.
1. Cut the tubes into 2 - 4 parts with ends taped
2. Use ESD precautions
3. Put the tubes into padded envelopes
I would charge the actual shipping plus the cost of padded envelope.
All American will charge me 8.25% local California tax. They might
ship the units to me and might charge a ground shipping charge to my
destination. I would ask them to give me a local delivery to avoid any
shipping from their side.
I will send the copy of invoice (from All American) with the local
orders. Will not send the invoice to international destinations
because of customs. Can email the scanned invoice to international
members.
I have a paypal account that can accept transfers only. I can't accept
credit cards as I would have to upgrade my account and paypal would
charge me extra for all transactions. The members who don't have
access to paypal can send me money order or personal checks.
My background: Just to build some trust, I'm Amateur Radio operator
with call sign KG6NFG, member of Milpitas Amateur Radio and
Electronics Society, a non profit organization (http://www.w6mlp.org).
My personal website is http://www.bhargavaz.com.
BillW who is on the list, can also verify my identity as I'm local to him.
Please let me know if anyone would like me to address their questions.
At 12:36 AM 6/29/2004 -0700, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>As the order list is almost full and might grow further, it is the
>time to discuss the packaging and the extra charges.
>
>1. Cut the tubes into 2 - 4 parts with ends taped
>2. Use ESD precautions
>3. Put the tubes into padded envelopes
If you use priority mail, (the cheaper of the two from USPS) they provide free boxes! I have a bunch here, that I use for uncut rails.
>All American will charge me 8.25% local California tax. They might
>ship the units to me and might charge a ground shipping charge to my
>destination. I would ask them to give me a local delivery to avoid any
>shipping from their side.
You may be able to do a "will call" if they are within reasonable driving distance.
Then again, with gas prices what they are in the People's Republic of California, fedex priority overnight might be less expensive :)
>My background: Just to build some trust, I'm Amateur Radio operator
>with call sign KG6NFG, member of Milpitas Amateur Radio and
>Electronics Society, a non profit organization (http://www.w6mlp.org).
>My personal website is http://www.bhargavaz.com.
KC6ETE here, I suspect the piclist has more hams than anyone realizes.
> 1. Cut the tubes into 2 - 4 parts with ends taped
> 2. Use ESD precautions
Absolutely essential if opening tubes. While yu may be lucky most of the
time there is the possibility to destroy substantial numebr of IC's worst
case. Doesn' take much effort to do it right.
> 3. Put the tubes into padded envelopes
If the cut tubes were fairly short and taped together so they were quite
stiff they probably don't need padding. padding doesn't hurt. A thing to
watch is a loosish tube in a loose bag - it can puncture right through the
bag if appropriate forces are supplied. The mail system is specially
designed to provide the right forces ;-)
You can send a Global Priority bag to NZ for about $US9 afair so should be
about the same to Australia and less to US destinations. . This fits 100 +
sheets of A4 so should handle quite a few cut IC tubes. Cardboard used is
light but ok if spare room taken with eg paper wrapping. Can't see padding
being needed. I'm told there is also a smaller Global priority bag for $5 to
NZ.
I have used the ATtiny 12 and would think this has more to offer in that it
has more oscillator options, 1k program memory,64 bytes of eeprom, ISP
programming.
What price can you get the ATtiny 12 for?
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Tauranga
New Zealand
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At 09:38 PM 6/29/2004 +1200, Russell McMahon wrote:
>What's the cheapest way to program an ATTiny11 (as its HV the cheaper
>programmers don't work as is).
>
>I have an SDK500 but I believe Jinx has no capability to program these at
>present and others may not have either.
> >What's the cheapest way to program an ATTiny11 (as its HV the cheaper
> >programmers don't work as is).
> >
> >I have an SDK500 but I believe Jinx has no capability to program these at
> >present and others may not have either.
>
> An AVRISP should work, that's what the docs say.
STOP-PRESS - no - the AVRISP does NOT handle the ATtiny11. It does the
ATtiny12 which is its big little brother - but the 12 has LV programming and
the 11 doesn't
Spec on AVRISP here
Any other ideas for low cost high voltage workable AVR programmers. (I've
found several circuit via Google that allege they program the 11 (It's not
always obvious that they in fact will) but there must be favourites.
>
>STOP-PRESS - no - the AVRISP does NOT handle the ATtiny11. It does the ATtiny12 which is its big little brother - but the 12 has LV programming and the 11 doesn't
>Spec on AVRISP here
You're right! The AVRISP dosen't do the high voltage mode that is needed for the tiny-11.
That's a bit of a wrench.
The STK-500 does, of course, at $79. It's not just a chip programmer, it's also a development board, and rather handy.
For another $79, you get the 501 adaptor that lets you program Mega-128s and others in a TQFP, with a very nice ZIF socket.
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>people can sign up here - shipping
>
>
>>
>>STOP-PRESS - no - the AVRISP does NOT handle the ATtiny11. It
>does the
>>ATtiny12 which is its big little brother - but the 12 has LV
>>programming and the 11 doesn't Spec on AVRISP here
>
>
>You're right! The AVRISP dosen't do the high voltage mode
>that is needed for the tiny-11. That's a bit of a wrench. The
>STK-500 does, of course, at $79. It's not just a chip
>programmer, it's also a development board, and rather handy.
>For another $79, you get the 501 adaptor that lets you program
>Mega-128s and others in a TQFP, with a very nice ZIF socket.
>
>I found this one, but I don't do German. Still, they talk
>about the tiny-11 specifically, and mention 12V. German
>piclisters, your take on the page?
>http://home.pages.at/arnerossius/schalt/mikro/a>ttiny11.htm
>
>I
>could roll a board for this through Olimex,
>pretty quickly.
Would a cheapo PIC parallel port style programmer (e.g. P16PRO) not be
hackable do program the tiny11?
Regards
Mike
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> I found this one, but I don't do German. Still, they talk about the
> tiny-11 specifically, and mention 12V. German piclisters, your take
> on the page?
> http://home.pages.at/arnerossius/schalt/mikro/attiny11.htm
>
this is a quick scan through the page only, but:
the description says it is specifically for the ATTiny11, and
that the 12V programming voltage is switched by hand to keep the
board simple.
The software 'should work' for all versions of windows starting
with 3.1, maybe even 3.0. It was written in VB 3.0
If a more thorough translation would be helpful, I would be
glad to do it this evening after work.
>I have used the ATtiny 12 and would think this has more to offer in that it
>has more oscillator options, 1k program memory,64 bytes of eeprom, ISP
>programming.
>
>What price can you get the ATtiny 12 for?
>*************************************************
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>
>Tauranga
>New Zealand
>*************************************************
>
>
I'd definitely be in on a deal like this with the 12. For the 11 there's
just a few too many problems to justify the "savings". It looks like the 12
has eeprom and LVP, both of which would be incredibly more convenient.
> Hi-
> Kinda late in this process, but the 12 does have more to offer (eeprom,
> for one).
> Do you have a price for those? I would really prefer them.
> David
>
>
> Hopkins wrote:
>
>> I have used the ATtiny 12 and would think this has more to offer in that
>> it
>> has more oscillator options, 1k program memory,64 bytes of eeprom, ISP
>> programming.
>>
>> What price can you get the ATtiny 12 for?
>> *************************************************
>> Roy Hopkins :-)
>>
>> Tauranga
>> New Zealand
>> *************************************************
>>
>>
I'll ask the rep today and will post on the list...
Regards,
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:45:52 -0700, David P Harris <spamdpharris@spam@telus.net> wrote:
> Hi-
> Kinda late in this process, but the 12 does have more to offer (eeprom,
> for one).
> Do you have a price for those? I would really prefer them.
> David
>
Would it make sense to create a website for doing group buys for large
qty of parts?
Then we could put bids in for any kind of large qty part and use the
buying power of piclist to get good prices. The proceeds could even be
used to fund the piclist site.
>
> I'll ask the rep today and will post on the list...
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:45:52 -0700, David P Harris <EraseMEdpharrisKILLspamtelus.net> wrote:
> > Hi-
> > Kinda late in this process, but the 12 does have more to offer (eeprom,
> > for one).
> > Do you have a price for those? I would really prefer them.
> > David
> >
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Website should have categories based on parts. People should be able
to put in their requests or cancel them.
Regards,
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:25:33 -0700, Ben Hencke <TakeThisOuTbrainstarTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> Would it make sense to create a website for doing group buys for large
> qty of parts?
> Then we could put bids in for any kind of large qty part and use the
> buying power of piclist to get good prices. The proceeds could even be
> used to fund the piclist site.
>
> takers?
> - Ben
I've seen group buys done on a web-board format because it is easier to
see the list of buyers increase. I can set this up on my server in an
hour or two if anyone else is interested.
> I'm in :-)
>
> Website should have categories based on parts. People should be able
> to put in their requests or cancel them.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:25:33 -0700, Ben Hencke <spambrainstar@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Would it make sense to create a website for doing group buys for large
>>qty of parts?
>>Then we could put bids in for any kind of large qty part and use the
>>buying power of piclist to get good prices. The proceeds could even be
>>used to fund the piclist site.
>>
>>takers?
>>- Ben
>
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> I've seen group buys done on a web-board format because it is easier to
> see the list of buyers increase. I can set this up on my server in an
> hour or two if anyone else is interested.
>
> Chetan Bhargava wrote:
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> STOP-PRESS - no - the AVRISP does NOT handle the ATtiny11. It does the
> ATtiny12 which is its big little brother - but the 12 has LV programming
and
> the 11 doesn't
Thanks for posting that. I have the AVRISP and I was still sitting on the
fence as far as joining the group buy. If I'm going to have to buy a
programmer that can do high voltage, it will destroy any cost savings over
the pic 12F6xx parts.
Now I can stay out of the group buy and not feel like I'll regret it in a
week :)
On Jun 29, 2004, at 8:45 AM, David P Harris wrote:
> the 12 does have more to offer (eeprom, for one).
> Do you have a price for those? I would really prefer them.
No contest, the 12 is nicer. Presumably that has something to do with
Atmel's decision to offer this rather ridiculous price ($0.25) on the
11, which is the bit DRIVING thing group purchase. For "normal"
prices, my impression is that digikey's 25-price is close to the 100+
price at most other vendors, and we're not looking at any significant
advantage to the group buy.
The 11 WAS on the "don't use for new designs" list, implying that it
would be discontinued in the not distant future, but the Atmel guy
assured us this wasn't so, and the summary sheet listing it that was
"old."
At the (normal) prices of the tiny12, you have to really think about
whether you'd rather have a pic12F675 (slightly cheaper, similar
capabilities...)
One of my friends who is expert at Eagle will be routing a board.
> Thanks for posting that. I have the AVRISP and I was still sitting on the
> fence as far as joining the group buy. If I'm going to have to buy a
> programmer that can do high voltage, it will destroy any cost savings over
> the pic 12F6xx parts.
>
> Now I can stay out of the group buy and not feel like I'll regret it in a
> week :)
>
> Jason
LMK if I can be of assistance. I won't be avail till later today, so
you might be done by then, but I will offer just in case ;-)
- Ben
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:16:23 -0400, Robert B. <KILLspampiclistKILLspamnerdulator.net> wrote:
>
> I'm about halfway through a mysql-driven version of this, if you'd rather
> work together let me know.
>
>
>
> {Original Message removed}
Just talked to Patrick at All American and have the followinf information:
1. Lead time is 4 weeks after we palce an order
2. They would charge shipping. He doesn't have an estimate
3. They would charge 8.25% CA tax
3. MOQ is 650+ multiples of 50
4. I have emailed him about Tiny12 part number for pricing
Patrick can be reached at murrayp a*t allamerican.com
> Are you still interested Russel and Jake?
>
> If so I'll up my order to 150 (50 for me, 50 for Russel, and 50 for Jake)
I'll take 150 and get them sent directly - Global priority should be
suitable and cheap enough.
150 is for me, a friend and for Jinx. I can resell a few small quantities
here if people want hobbyist parts.
At 09:33 PM 6/29/2004 -0700, Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>Updated list:
Almost 1000 AVR processors, going out to the piclist crowd.
Who'd have thunk it.. :)
Feel the power of the dark side!
I can take a 2343 skeleton application, and mod it for the T11, if anyone's interested. Basically, just cut off the ram.
The stack is three deep, so you have three calls before you won't be coming back.
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> Subject: Re: [AVR:] ATtiny11s group buy list -- Interested people can
> sign up here - shipping
>
>
> Yes these are pdips ATTint11-6PC
>
> I'll add you to the list for 50.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chetan
>
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> I can take a 2343 skeleton application, and mod it for the T11, if
anyone's interested. Basically, just cut off the ram.
> The stack is three deep, so you have three calls before you won't be
coming back.
*
I'm sure many would be.
Any chance of putting it on a web page ?
Somebody hire this man !!!!
RM
* 3 calls ?
Hello,
Hello is there anyone there?
Hello?
Whos............
:-)
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>I'm sure many would be.
>Any chance of putting it on a web page ?
I could do that, http://www.dvanhorn.org
It might be as late as tomorrow.
I can include an engine to send morse code, translating ASCII text in rom.
This makes use of timer 1 both as a timing element, and to generate square wave tones, and semi-musical bleepings.
>Somebody hire this man !!!!
I second that. I'm open to working essentially anywhere, as long as it makes financial sense. Telecommute would be ideal, less expensive all around, but I'll go where the work is.
> RM
>
>
>* 3 calls ?
It and the lack of RAM and EE are significant limitations in the T11, but I just ported over a 2343 app to the T11, and it's running in sim. Took about 30 minutes, very leisurely paced. I had to remove some fluff to fit the app, but it's now at 461 instructions (words) out of 512 available.
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I have heard, and believe, that "priority mail" has the same delivery
terms as "first class" mail. That means if you package weighs
significantly under 1lb, you can probably get it to its destination at
the same speed for less than the minimum priority mail charge.
BillW
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Yes, the priority mail delivery times to east coast is a bit less than
first class mail. Another option that can be included is delivery
confirmation.
As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
thoughts on this?
It looks like that the order list is stabilizing and time to order is
near. Please let me know whether should we wait couple of days for
more people?
Regards,
Chetan Bhargava
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:13:38 -0700, William Chops Westfield
<TakeThisOuTwestfwKILLspammac.com> wrote:
> I have heard, and believe, that "priority mail" has the same delivery
> terms as "first class" mail. That means if you package weighs
> significantly under 1lb, you can probably get it to its destination at
> the same speed for less than the minimum priority mail charge.
>
> BillW
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I'm not sure that will save any money. However, if someonecan pick them
up south of the border, and then mail them inside Canada, it would save
money. I'm on Vancouver Island, so a bit difficultfor me.
David
Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>.....As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
>Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
>can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
>thoughts on this?
>
>
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Another issue: if the consolodated package gets dinged for Customs/Duty
(sometimes hard to tell if they will or won't), then the consolodated
receiver then has to contact each downstream consignee for $$$ etc.
If they're mailed direct, then at least each person can deal with the Post
Office directly...
> I'm not sure that will save any money. However, if someonecan pick them
> up south of the border, and then mail them inside Canada, it would save
> money. I'm on Vancouver Island, so a bit difficultfor me.
> David
>
> Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>
>> .....As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
>> Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
>> can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
>> thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>
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At 11:06 AM 6/30/2004 -0700, David P Harris wrote:
>I'm not sure that will save any money. However, if someonecan pick them
>up south of the border, and then mail them inside Canada, it would save
>money. I'm on Vancouver Island, so a bit difficultfor me.
>David
Or mail them down to someone in Blaine, or Pt Roberts?
Pity we never met when I was up that way fairly frequently..
Drop by the Roof house on Pt Roberts, and have an apple cobbler for me :)
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>At 11:06 AM 6/30/2004 -0700, David P Harris wrote:
>
>
>
>>I'm not sure that will save any money. However, if someonecan pick them
>>up south of the border, and then mail them inside Canada, it would save
>>money. I'm on Vancouver Island, so a bit difficultfor me.
>>David
>>
>>
>
>Or mail them down to someone in Blaine, or Pt Roberts?
>
>Pity we never met when I was up that way fairly frequently..
>Drop by the Roof house on Pt Roberts, and have an apple cobbler for me :)
>
I actually have never been to Point Roberts, although I got within 200
yards when I was in Tsawwassen. I will try to have that Cobbler for
you, though :-)
David
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>I actually have never been to Point Roberts, although I got within 200
>yards when I was in Tsawwassen. I will try to have that Cobbler for
>you, though :-)
>David
The Dane is quite a character.
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> I'm not sure that will save any money. However, if someonecan pick them
> up south of the border, and then mail them inside Canada, it would save
> money. I'm on Vancouver Island, so a bit difficultfor me.
> David
>
> Chetan Bhargava wrote:
>
> >.....As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
> >Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
> >can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
> >thoughts on this?
> >
> >
>
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:23:34 -0700, Chetan Bhargava <spam_OUTcbhargavaspamgmail.com> wrote:
>
> As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
> Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
> can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
> thoughts on this?
I'm in Vancouver, not sure if anyone else is ordering from around
here. That would be nice to combine shipping.
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>On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:23:34 -0700, Chetan Bhargava <EraseMEcbhargavaspamBeGonegmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>As far as I can think, the list has members from USA, Canada and
>>Australia and probably Netherlands. Therefore it would be nice if we
>>can combine shipments to Canada as well as Australia. Let me know your
>>thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>
>I'm in Vancouver, not sure if anyone else is ordering from around
>here. That would be nice to combine shipping.
>
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>
Alex-
I'm in Victoria. Any chance you can pop down to Bellingham and pick
them up there? Might save customs.
David
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>David, I don't mind receiving them in Vancouver and remailing them to you on VI.
>
>I'd rather not take them across the border without going through customs though.
>
>
>
Oops, didn't see this reply....thanks for the offer!
Actually, if they are sent via USPS and have a value of $12.50, I expect
there won't be any customs, so us receiving them individually is
probably the most cost effective.
I vote for individual packages, as proposed.
David
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From: pic microcontroller discussion list [EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU] On
Behalf Of Chetan Bhargava
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 3:59 PM
To: PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [AVR:] ATtiny11s group buy list -- Interested people can sign
up here - shipping to Canada
I just measured weight of a tube filled with 74ALS373 and a used padded
envelope and it was less than 3.5 oz approximately.
Here are the various postage options that I got from USPS for 3.5oz package.
1. Domestic (USA)
First Class (3-4 days) - $1.06
Priority Mail (3 days) - $3.85
2. Canada
Airmail (4-7 days) - $1.35
Global Priority mail (4-6 days) - $7.00
3. Australia
Airmail (4-7 days) - $3.50
Global Priority Mail (4-6 days) - $9.00
4. Netherlands
Airmail (4-7 days) - $3.20
Global Priority Mail (4-6 days) - $9.00
I'm not sure whether delivery confirmation is available for global priority
mail but it is available for domestic mail.
> Here are the various postage options that I got from USPS for 3.5oz
package.
> 3. Australia
> Airmail (4-7 days) - $3.50
> Global Priority Mail (4-6 days) - $9.00
I'm in NZ. If I can get my 150 sent directly it would be good. I believe the
Australian rate is the same as to NZ - we are just "across the pond".
I'm happy with airmail BUT Global priority may be easier to pack for you as
you get a well defined cardboard envelope, whereas with email you are
probably on your own. Whatever suits. A factor MAY be that the Global
priority envelope is at that price up to ?1 kg AFAIR, while the mail may
increase if sending 150 to NZ.
I appreciate the effort being gone to to arrange this deal. You'll probably
regret it, but it should get a lot of new low cost ideas on the list!
>I'm happy with airmail BUT Global priority may be easier to
>pack for you as you get a well defined cardboard envelope,
>whereas with email you are probably on your own. Whatever
>suits.
Didn't know the "physical" attachment API for Outlook Express had been
released yet :0)
Regards
Mike
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> >I'm happy with airmail BUT Global priority may be easier to
> >pack for you as you get a well defined cardboard envelope,
> >whereas with email you are probably on your own. Whatever
> >suits.
>
> Didn't know the "physical" attachment API for Outlook Express had been
> released yet :0)
Any day now. Microsoft intend to patent it just as soon as they fully
understand the (subsequently non-existent) prior art.
> > Didn't know the "physical" attachment API for Outlook Express had been
> > released yet :0)
>
> Any day now. Microsoft intend to patent it just as soon as they fully
> understand the (subsequently non-existent) prior art.
Prior art was demonstrated in/near San Fransciso, CA in 1986 by the
transport of a whale. This is documented in ISBN 0-671-63266-3
All American will ship the devices from Miami, FL. Patrick told me
that they would charge shipping form there and it would be maximum of
$25 OR he can use a UPS / FedEx account number to ship the package and
won't charge any shipping.
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