Post by thread:[EE]:: Died

A sad day for a famous butterfly. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_on_sc/obit_lorenz;_ylt=AoBkbVE3Y8ww1ygIcYnaaKezvtEF http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/obit-lorenz-0416.html So if you see any lost looking butterflies in the next while just remember to give them a VERY wide berth - the Texans are counting on you. R.

What does this have to do with Engineering? Science - Yes, Math - Yes, Engineering - No Gordon Williams {Original Message removed}

> What does this have to do with Engineering? > Science - Yes, Math - Yes, Engineering - No > Gordon Williams Well; ignoring the fact that it's the obituary of a great man which is liable to be of interest to many engineers, if you don't think that chaos "theory" has got anything to do with engineering then I regret to say that am unlikely to be the person to convince you, or a few other people. However, on the off chance: A polynomial chaos theory approach to uncertainty in electrical engineering ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/10658/33627/01599320.pdf?temp=x http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/10658/33627/01599320.pdf?arnumber=1599320 Traditionally, engineering has striven to keep its systems linear, because that makes them simpler to build and to predict. However, many physical systems (for example lasers) are inherently "complex systems" in terms of the definition above, and engineering practice must now include elements of complex systems research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_systems Implications of chaos theory for engineering science http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/pep/jmes/1997/00000211/00000005/art00003 .../"Engineering"/book http://www.springer.com/engineering/book/978-3-540-26899-4 Chaos, catastrophes and engineering: Applying chaos theory to engineering may seem odd. We expect machines and structures to operate with clockwork predictability. But engineers are now discovering that a sudden disaster may mean there's a fractal in the works http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12617204.200-chaos-catastrophes-and-engineering-applying-chaos-theoryto-engineering-may-seem-odd-we-expect-machines-and-structures-to-operatewith-clockwork-predictability-but-engineers-are-now-discovering-that-asudden-disaster-may-mean-theres-a-fractal-in-the-works-.html Introducing Chaos (Theory) into Science and Engineering http://wcx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/12/4/396 EJ513311 - Introducing Chaos (Theory) into Science and Engineering: Effects of Rhetorical Strategies on Scientific Readers. http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ513311&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ513311 The last is 'a bit of a reach'. However, there are a few zillion others out there somewhere to take its place. R {Quote hidden}> : A sad day for a famous butterfly. > : > : > news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_on_sc/obit_lorenz;_ylt=AoBkbVE3Y8ww1ygIcYnaaKezvtEF > : > : > web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/obit-lorenz-0416.html > : > : > : So if you see any lost looking butterflies in the next > while > : just remember to give them a VERY wide berth - the > Texans > : are counting on you.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Apptech" <spam_OUTapptechTakeThisOuTparadise.net.nz> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <.....piclistKILLspam@spam@mit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [EE]:: Died - Edward Lorenz >> What does this have to do with Engineering? >> Science - Yes, Math - Yes, Engineering - No >> Gordon Williams > > Well; ignoring the fact that it's the obituary of a great > man which is liable to be of interest to many engineers, if > you don't think that chaos "theory" has got anything to do > with engineering then I regret to say that am unlikely to be > the person to convince you, or a few other people. <snip> ...aaaand, their off!!!!!(again)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:32:32AM -0400, Gordon Williams wrote: > What does this have to do with Engineering? > > Science - Yes, Math - Yes, Engineering - No Right, well in that case I for one vote to change [EE] to [EESM].. - -- peter[:-1]@petertodd.org http://petertodd.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIB2sW3bMhDbI9xWQRAhBIAJ96LJelfTnDda7x4zdIHY2NdDJsFQCfTH+Y /IcFQdfliplX4JQpqeJ3yA8= =csla -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Other Maths and Sciences also get used in engineering - So what? Doesn't make them engineering too. Gordon Williams {Original Message removed}

> ...aaaand, their off!!!!!(again) Indeed. Have a look at my posts in the last few days. Take 5 seconds to assess their worth. And the appropriateness of their placement. And note what happens with the first (very) arguably questionable judgement call. FWIW. Did you like the references? :-) Russell

> -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bouncesKILLspamMIT.EDU [.....piclist-bouncesKILLspam.....MIT.EDU] On Behalf > Of Gordon Williams > Sent: 17 April 2008 15:33 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE]:: Died - Edward Lorenz > > What does this have to do with Engineering? > > Science - Yes, Math - Yes, Engineering - No > Please let's not create another flood of email arguing about ridiculous and trivial reasons why a post should or should not be posted under a particular tag. Life is too short, get out and enjoy it while you can. Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. =======================================================================