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2001\08\03@065123 by Roman Black

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Peter L. Peres wrote:
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> > how do you switch that SCR off?  Turns out, you switch
> > a capacitor across the device which diverts the current
> > around it for just a few micro(?)seconds and that's
> > enough to turn it off.  Pretty impressive, I thought.
>
> Barry, the two-thyristor scheme was used extensively for horizontal
> deflection and HV circuits before HV transistors were available. Try to
> get hold of a Grundig color TV set schematic from about 10-15 years ago.
> Maybe Roman has one. It's a neat scheme. Of course the theory is discussed
> in contemporary application notes (from ITT and others).


We didn't get many German sets here, but I have seen
that system. Some even used the deliberate ringing
of the driven transformer to turn off the SCR. I do
know I have a heap of those old Thyristors lying
around, high voltage medium current TO-3 etc.
Good paperweights. :o)
-Roman

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2001\08\03@135510 by Also-Antal Csaba

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> > > how do you switch that SCR off?  Turns out, you switch
> > > a capacitor across the device which diverts the current
> > > around it for just a few micro(?)seconds and that's
> > > enough to turn it off.  Pretty impressive, I thought.
> >
> > Barry, the two-thyristor scheme was used extensively for horizontal
> > deflection and HV circuits before HV transistors were available. Try to
> > get hold of a Grundig color TV set schematic from about 10-15 years ago.
> > Maybe Roman has one. It's a neat scheme. Of course the theory is discussed
> > in contemporary application notes (from ITT and others).

Why not use igbt or powerfet? Cheep, have a ttl comp driver chip, you
can turn off anytime you want, etc.

udv
Csaba

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2001\08\04@121825 by jeethur

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Csaba,

> Why not use igbt or powerfet? Cheep, have a ttl comp driver chip, you
> can turn off anytime you want, etc.

AFAIK, Triacs are a lot more cheaper than IGBTs or Power Mosfets.
Atleast that is the case in India.

And since they still are in production, its ample proof that
a lot of people still use em.

Don't take me for a Thyristor loyalist.

But Triacs and SCRs can be very useful at times.

Jeethu Rao

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2001\08\05@054415 by Also-Antal Csaba

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Jeethu Rao wrote:
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> Csaba,
>
> > Why not use igbt or powerfet? Cheep, have a ttl comp driver chip, you
> > can turn off anytime you want, etc.
>
> AFAIK, Triacs are a lot more cheaper than IGBTs or Power Mosfets.
> Atleast that is the case in India.

Some low quantity price in Hungary:

thyristor 81RIA120   1200V 80A cc 22$
thyristor bt151       650V 12A cc .5$

IGBT      BUP314D    1200V 42A cc 8.4$
IGBT      IRG4PC 50F  600V 70A cc 7.4$
IGBT      BUP200     1200V 3.5A cc 1$

PowerFet  buk 444    500V 1.9A  1.25$
PowerFet  buk 455    600V   4A    1$

IR2151 driver for igbt cc 1$
U 208B Thyr. driver    cc 1$

> And since they still are in production, its ample proof that
> a lot of people still use em.
>
> Don't take me for a Thyristor loyalist.
>
> But Triacs and SCRs can be very useful at times.

Yes, but they have their own limits.

udv
Csaba

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