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'[EE]: Voltage regulator'
2004\11\03@170121 by Padu

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I need some help choosing some components for my application.

Power will be supplied by automotive battery (12V - car or motorcycle) AND a 9v battery. Logically, when 12v battery is connected, I don't need to draw energy from the 9v battery.

I've seen a few (quite a few) models from national semi., ti and seiko, but I'm now sure if only one regulator will do the job or what kind of switching (between the 9v and 12v bats) components do I need to consider? The desired output voltage is 3.3 (I'm using the "LF" series of PICs)

Thanks

Padu
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2004\11\03@171150 by Dave VanHorn

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At 04:59 PM 11/3/2004, Padu wrote:

>I need some help choosing some components for my application.
>
>Power will be supplied by automotive battery (12V - car or motorcycle) AND
>a 9v battery. Logically, when 12v battery is connected, I don't need to
>draw energy from the 9v battery.

All you need here is a couple of diodes.

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'[EE]: voltage regulator'
2005\09\18@010345 by Dave King
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Just wondering if anyone has run across a working schematic
for a DC voltage regulator. Input range is 20-48 and required
output is 12vdc @ 10Amps with a max of say 15-20A.

I'm looking at one schematic that has the required output but
is too narrow in the input voltage range. So if you know of a good
one please let me know.

Tia

Dave

2005\09\18@081536 by Tom Sefranek

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Dave King wrote:

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Are you looking for a switching or linear regulator?

A classic Linear regulator is the multi 2N3055 pass transistors feed by
a single 3055 driven by a 723.
Most ARRL handbooks have the design including the transformer and
rectifier/filter section.
There are better transistors and FETs that can be substituted.
You will need a MASSIVE heat sink, or forced cooled sink.
I have designed and built linear supplies with transistor and FET
bricks for 100 amp+ performance.

Tom

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2005\09\18@091917 by Xiaofan Chen

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Google for "IBA 48V 12V supply" and you will get the first hit from
Maxim. 48V bus (telecom) or 42V bus (electric vehicle) will be very
popular for IBA converters. VRM (eg: pentium 4/AMD64 power supply
on the motherboard) is drawing power from the 12V bus (used to be
from 5V bus in the Pentium 1 era).

It is not what you exactly want. Still you may want to look at the forward
converter design and adapt it to your design.

www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/3539/ln/en
"A 50 Watt Internal Bus Architecture (IBA) Power Supply".

Regards,
Xiaofan

2005\09\19@104759 by Martin Klingensmith

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Tom Sefranek wrote:

> Are you looking for a switching or linear regulator?
>
> A classic Linear regulator is the multi 2N3055 pass transistors feed
> by a single 3055 driven by a 723.
> Most ARRL handbooks have the design including the transformer and
> rectifier/filter section.
> There are better transistors and FETs that can be substituted.
> You will need a MASSIVE heat sink, or forced cooled sink.
> I have designed and built linear supplies with transistor and FET
> bricks for 100 amp+ performance.
>
> Tom
>
I have a massive copper heatsink that came from a Sorensen linear power
supply.
It has room for 6 TO-3 devices [has 5 2n3055s on it right now], air cooled.

If anyone wants it, I'd let it go for $15. It's 5+ pounds of copper. I'd
give it away but I bought the non-working Sorensen supply on eBay for $60.

I also have the transformer from the supply. It's really a monster.

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2005\09\19@110005 by Martin Klingensmith

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Dave King wrote:

>
> Just wondering if anyone has run across a working schematic
> for a DC voltage regulator. Input range is 20-48 and required
> output is 12vdc @ 10Amps with a max of say 15-20A.
>
> I'm looking at one schematic that has the required output but
> is too narrow in the input voltage range. So if you know of a good
> one please let me know.
>
> Tia
>
> Dave
>
You can make a relatively simple push-pull half bridge design with an
LM/SG3525. The core selection is very important as it determines if your
FETs will explode [core saturation].
I assume  you have done some searching and have seen the car audio
folk's SMPS. These are usually unregulated with poor design. If you
don't need an isolated output [it seems you have an input transformer
already] you can do this with some careful experimentation. Always check
everything twice and power it up through a 1 ohm resistor the first
time. It can be done but I'd be very skeptical of a first SMPS of that
power working the first time.
If you want me to check your schematic I'd be glad to [if you use the
'3525 or '3846] I've been fiddling around with those for a few years. If
you want design assistance I could help you there too.

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