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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019, RussellMc wrote:

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Consider this: many people that are disciplined in martial arts are disciplined (they practice long and hard). Many yobs that throw their weight around are NOT disciplined and could never achieve any kind of rank in any martial art. It follows that a yob encountering someone that practices martial arts will be at a great disadvantage and will ALWAYS lose a confrontation. Also consider that such yobs are VERY UNLIKELY to advertise the fact that they lost a fight - especially to an old geezer. So hearing about such events is rare even though they do happen more often than you might think.

So put a smile on your face and consider that sooner or later your "younguns" will wish (most profoundly) that they had never got out of bed that week :-)

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'[OT]:: Speech recognition software .'
2019\02\19@071548 by RussellMc
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*- My typing ability has been "somewhat impeded" and will be slower than
usual for some while *- see below*.
 (Broken clavicle (collar bone) - said 6 to 8 weeks in sling. I am typing
this on kbd with arm suitable supported BUT minimisation of motion may well
improve quality of finished healing.)

*- I would like to obtain dictation software.*

*- Comments and suggestions sought.*



*Are the free Google or Microsoft products good enough as per below
requirement. *
*________________________*

I want something that works "well enough" for everyday use with

- some errors OK. fewer better. Post editing OK.
- natural speech rate. (ie MUST NOT be a painful process)
- voice controlled editing a bonus.
- PC control a bonus, not essential.
- Free is good. Under $100 bearable. Over $100 - there needs to be a good
reason.
- Interface to a free or common program - wider interface nice.

I have not tried anything yet.


   Russell

* Heading for car near midnight after Chinese Lantern Festival.
Not many people about.
Two young men -  possibly druggedish / somewhat drunk.
Asked for money - I'm not totally averse to this but plausibility needs to
be fair.
Then asked for a colour changing light I had in bag. As that was one of 3
from rubbish at CLF I was not totally averse but ...
When he got to camera and possibility of fighting I lost interest.
I declined and walked off.
He grabbed backpack and camera strap - they were well enough attached :-).
I turned to 'get in his face' -  a mistake and a lesson learned. I did not
touch him or abuse him.
Next - unclear - may have been an IMMENSE shove or maybe a punch.
I spun as I fell.
Immediately behind me was a thin metal pole with a parking sign thereon.
Falling I hit pole on shoulder just outside head line (fortunately)
End result: Broken clavicle, very well gravel rashed knees, broken right
bit toe.

Alas the camera failed to fire up - battery may have been 'popped' out of
contact by impact.
Several witnesses. Youngsters exit stage somewhere. Police, Ambulance,
Hospital. Home. Ouch.



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*OPTIONS?:*

I am impressed with the accuracy of searching using Google voice
recognition on Android cellphone - but not with the response time.

*Google DOCs* voice typing sounds good.
Free, accuracy and speed said to be good. Voice editing.
ONLY works with Google Docs & Chrome = acceptable.

*Windows Speech Recognition.*
I do not use Cortana. Could happen.
Free. Works with Word and some other programs. Acceptable.

*Dragon Naturally Speaking*. v13 or 12 or ...
Prices highly variable for same apparent product.
NZ sold ones seem to be  substantially higher priced again.
Would buy/use IF there is a good reason to do so.


*MANY others:*
51 products !!!! - https://www.capterra.com/speech-recognition-software/

Dictate - MS Garage project - they say - bona fides not yet checked -
https://dictate.ms/

DNS vs free -
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/10188-free-paid-dictation-software-comparison.html



DNS 13 Prem Stu & Teacher $NZ125 about $US 90
https://www.fishpond.co.nz/Electronics/Nuance-Dragon-NaturallySpeaking-13-Premium-Student-Teacher-Edition-come-with-standard/0780420129016?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=ps&utm_campaign=NZ&gclid=CjwKCAiA767jBRBqEiwAGdAOrz0jfgmfO4UUGKv7DuTy8SPQuY3HZVIG-1MW5UV7VasoBIZayAiGAxoCs6sQAvD_BwE

DNS12 / 13 - ebay $US 13 20 30 50 70 180  - ... !!!!
Shipping costs ~= 2 x lowest product cost.
www.ebay.com/p/Nuance-Dragon-NaturallySpeaking-12-0-Home-K409A-G00-12-0/127667478
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2019\02\19@075126 by mike brown

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I broke my collar bone (allong with several ribs, finger and T7) in 2001.
The bone was broken near the sternum.  My "sports doctor" basically told me
to suck it up and get back to work after a few weeks.  He seemed
unconcerned that I would do any harm by flexing the shoulder etc.  The
threat of not doing it was that I'd "be stuck like that" if I didn't start
using it.  I was a network cable installer at the time, so you can imagine
the range of motion required to "get back to work". Apparently, he was
right, I've regained full motion, even if I do have a strange bump where
the bone rejoined at an angle.  I'm not saying you should do this, now or
ever, just relaying my story.  If your doctor tells you to use it, but it
seems odd and unnatural to you, maybe you should listen to him.

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2019\02\19@084311 by Jim

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Russell,

I used to work with a guy that had (has) ALS.  As time went on, he had
less and less use of his arms.
But to stay productive, and continue doing is job (He is a Phd EE), he
used Dragon software I believe.
It was very accurate, was relatively simple to setup, learn, and use. And the cost was reasonable.
You could give it a shot.  I believe the cost was less than $200.00 USD.
He has since retired, and had some sort of experimental treatment
performed on him.  I speak to him on
occasion and the last I spoke to him, he was maintaining the status quo
and not getting worse.
I don't know if that treatment will ever get him into remission, but not
getting worse is a big deal.
Regards,

Jim

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2019\02\19@113054 by Allen Mulvey

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My daughter is visually impaired. She and other blind people
use Dragon Naturally Speaking. It had gotten remarkably good
over the last 10 or 15 years.

Amazon has a version for $26.99US:
www.amazon.com/Nuance-Dragon-K409A-G00-13-0-Naturall
ySpeaking-Home/dp/B00LX4BZAQ

It used to come bundled with WordPerfect Office.

Allen

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2019\02\19@114644 by Harold Hallikainen

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Google has a speech to text system. See
https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/ .

It appears they want to sell you the service, but you can try it for free.
I'm guessing they developed this because they need it to meet the closed
caption requirements for You Tube. Also, having text makes video and audio
searchable.

Good luck and a speedy recovery!

Harold



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2019\02\19@172309 by stephen.forrestn/a

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As David Attenborough once noted, the most dangerous animal in the world is the adult male human :o(


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2019\02\20@081100 by RussellMc

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 11:24, .....stephen.forrestKILLspamspam.....agilent.com <
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> As David Attenborough once noted, the most dangerous animal in the world
> is the adult male human :o(
>
> For day to day hurly-burly, perhaps the late teen male human.
Which these guys may have been.

We olde guys can be reasonably lethal in more subtle ways once we drop into
gear.
Several groups of 'younguns' have regretted breaking into cars in my
street, without my having come near them on one occasion, or even having
seen them on another :-).


       Russell

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2019\02\20@084214 by David Van Horn

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Speaking hypothetically of course, it might be amusing to share purely hypothetical ideas.  ðŸ˜Š

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2019\02\20@090651 by AB Pearce - UKRI STFC

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> We olde guys can be reasonably lethal in more subtle ways once we drop into gear.

Which kids at children's camps tend to forget, there is no new behaviour under the sun, the leaders have seen it all before ...

> Several groups of 'younguns' have regretted breaking into cars in my street,
> without my having come near them on one occasion, or even having seen them on another :-).

This really does need a disclosure ...

"My name is .... and I scare burglars by ..."



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2019\02\20@091223 by David Van Horn

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I forget where I heard this, but I like it:  "I have no living enemies... At all."

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2019\02\20@173115 by RussellMc

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 03:12, David Van Horn <
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> I forget where I heard this, but I like it:  "I have no living enemies...
> At all."
>

More Later.
Excessively mundane in my case, alas.  Albeit effective :-)

Sig line seen long ago.
"I think, therefore you are. Don't make me regret it".
____________

On original subject :-) - I have been using Google's voice dictation in
Google docs as a '1st trial'.
It's a good start for what I needed initially even though limited in
accuracy and flexibility.
I can copy and paste if desired.
More on that anon maybe.
Dragon may happen.

I'm typing this.
Had I realised (stupid!) it would get this long I'd have swapped to voice.
Slower than usual but usable.
Place broken arm in sling on desk.
Slide arm around desk within very limited area to type.
Some directions - no pain. Others, some. Others - you rapidly learn not to
access those.
Pull move lift arm into position when larger movements or lifting needed.
Sounds a bit strange (and is) but brain tends to accommodate it
unconsciously (as brains tend to do).

Probably harder on fracture healing than is strictly good.
As of late yesterday I thought the pain reduction was surprisingly good.
Until the two sets of overlapping analgesics began to wear off in the early
am hours. Um.

Lowish pain due to medication  can mean you are further  damaging the
damaged area unwittingly and/or slowing healing and/or (perhaps worst in
this case) allowing ongoing attempts at joining at the broken juncture
leading to the classic large lump that various people mention. This is
probably more likely due more to poor alignment of ends but semi-painlessly


Russell


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2019\02\20@193321 by John Gardner

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Maybe if you'd been wearing your Moderator's cape...

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2019\02\20@194832 by Sean Breheny

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I recall one story in the news in the last few years about a guy who broke
in to the home of a 75 year old man - who had been a professional boxer
when he was younger. The burglar was knocked out cold which made it
especially easy to arrest him when the police arrived.

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2019\02\20@195604 by Lyle Hazelwood

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> I recall one story in the news in the last few years about a guy who broke
> in to the home of a 75 year old man - who had been a professional boxer
> when he was younger.
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The older we get, the less a "life sentence" is a deterrent.

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2019\02\20@221719 by Sean Breheny

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Maybe, but most older people I know, even if they are "ready" to die, still
want to live and not in prison. This man was lauded for his actions, even
by police and the DA. He didn't face any charges, nor should he in my
opinion.

This was the story:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196479/Pictured-The-battered-bruised-face-burglar-got-wrong-72-year-old-boxer.html


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2019\02\21@045130 by RussellMc

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 13:48, Sean Breheny <EraseMEshb7spamcornell.edu> wrote:

> I recall one story in the news in the last few years about a guy who broke
> in to the home of a 75 year old man - who had been a professional boxer
> when he was younger. The burglar was knocked out cold which made it
> especially easy to arrest him when the police arrived.
>
> Rechecks tag - yep, OT. OK.

Now long ago, a young man with a knife attempted to rob a NZ taxi driver.
Attempted.
My recollection of the published comment of what the driver told the
assailant (no doubt with a bit more as well) was
~= "I used to kill Germans for a shilling a day and they were better men
than you'll ever be."*

FWIW. the more I've learned about WW2 the sorrier I've felt for the German
rank & file in general in all theatres.

I recently watched an older (younger than me) school teacher with a
Claymore (Not the "This side towards enemy" type) dealing with 'attacks'
from a highly capable and energetic young re-enactment 'assailant' wielding
a smaller sword and a shield.
Minimal body motion, on every occasion the Claymore seemed to slide slowly
and effortlessly into a defensive block and then quite a lot of the time
rematerialise inside the attackers sword and against their body.
Sobering. I wonder how the Police would react to an old guy unconcealed
carrying a Claymore in public. (Actually, I know, without trying :-). ).


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2019\02\21@045510 by RussellMc

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 13:06, smplx <RemoveMEsmplxEraseMEspamEraseMEallotrope.net> wrote:

> Consider this: many people that are disciplined in martial arts are ....

Whie I said
> Several groups of 'younguns' have regretted breaking into cars in my
street,
I also said
> without my having come near them on one occasion, or even having seen
them on another :-).
and

> Excessively mundane in my case, alas.  Albeit effective :-)
>
> ie my 'successes' were not due to on martial competence on my part but on
the stupidity of the miscreants and on my relatively bloody minded
persistance.

Almost boringly trivial alas. More anon probably. But, boring.


  Russell

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