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'[OT]: Need source for little LED displays'
2001\05\22@153331 by Brian Aase

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I'm looking at a future product that would benefit from a
very small LED display, about the size of the ones on
old LED calculators.  Requirements are 6 to 7 alphanumeric
(11- or 13-segment) characters within a space about 1.5"
wide (very roughly).  The supply of such things seems to
have largely dried up over the past ten years or so.
Can anyone suggest sources for me to look at?

Brian Aase

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2001\05\22@170628 by Andrew Warren

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Brian Aase <spam_OUTPICLISTTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu> wrote:

> I'm looking at a future product that would benefit from a very
> small LED display, about the size of the ones on old LED
> calculators.  Requirements are 6 to 7 alphanumeric (11- or
> 13-segment) characters within a space about 1.5" wide (very
> roughly).  The supply of such things seems to have largely dried up
> over the past ten years or so. Can anyone suggest sources for me to
> look at?

Brian:

Take a look at the Agilent HCMS-29xx family.  The datasheet is at:

   http://literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5964-6376E.pdf

They're VERY cool.

-Andy


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2001\05\22@200822 by steve

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> Take a look at the Agilent HCMS-29xx family.  The datasheet is at:
> They're VERY cool.

But be warned, they're not too cheap and they are still LEDs so
they suck a bit of power.
Agilent also do the HPDL 2.85mm starburst and Infineon have
3.6mm dot matrix (DLR1414).
They look good though.

Steve.

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2001\05\22@231805 by Bill Westfield

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   > Take a look at the Agilent HCMS-29xx family.  The datasheet is at:
   > They're VERY cool.

   But be warned, they're not too cheap and they are still LEDs so
   they suck a bit of power.

Yes.  The power bill is rather shocking.  There are a wide variety of these
5x7 dot matrix LED displays available, with internal intelligence ranging
from "not much" (shift registers and drivers only - continually supply
bits) to "some" (shift registers, drivers, and internal memory - supply
bits once (I think this includes the Agilent parts mentioned) to "talk to
me in ascii."  BG Micro has some dumb ones (ACS1076) and some ascii ones
(LEDPD243x) at rather attractive prices...

One of the projects I have laid out to do sometime is a PIC-based driver
for the HCMS-29xx parts (I happen to have found a bunch dumpster diving.)
I figure a PIC should be able to accept rs232 ascii and create a (possibly
scrolling) dislpay on an arbitrary number of cascaded LED chips (detected
automatically.)  Rather like the PICLCD displays now proliferating, only
with LEDs instead...

BillW

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2001\05\23@154253 by Peter L. Peres
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For the semi-intelligent Agilent displays budget 400mA for every 8
character unit with average text data. Heavy graphics will more than
double this.

Peter

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2001\05\25@230342 by M. Adam Davis

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Any reason you couldn't use a backlit LCD?

-Adam

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2001\05\25@232931 by Mark Newland

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Having absolutly no idea why the original poster (Brian) wanted the LED
displays, the following are my guesses:

1) Wants to build some funky 70's retro product.
2) Wants it to glow in the dark without being backlit.
3) Too much EMI noise from the backlit invertor
4) Doesn't know of the existance of LCD's
5) The LED displays are smaller (the glass, not the segments)
6) Repairing an older piece of equiptment
7) School project
8) Wanted to bug all us PICLIST people with such a wierd request
9) Doesn't want dogs (who can't see red) to read what is on the display

Any others that I have missed??

"M. Adam Davis" wrote:

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2001\05\26@083256 by Brian Aase

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10) It is a requirement specified by the customer.
Thanks to other list members, I have found that both Agilent
and Infineon make these.  That's what I needed to know.
Thanks to all who helped out.

Brian Aase

On 25 May 2001, at 20:25, Mark Newland wrote:

> Any others that I have missed??
>
> "M. Adam Davis" wrote:
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> > Any reason you couldn't use a backlit LCD?
> >
> > -Adam

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2001\05\29@003330 by Bill Westfield

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   5) The LED displays are smaller (the glass, not the segments)

That's probably the big one.


   Any others that I have missed?

10) The LED displays we've been talking about are much higher in contrast
   than an LCD display, and easier to read at a distance.
11) LCDs in the size mentioned (4-8 digits) are rare and usually "custom."

BillW

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