>
> Hi all,
>
> First off, don't get scared, this isn't about a virus posted to the list :-)
>
> I work part time as a computer support tech here at Cornell and we have
> got several computers which appear to be infected with a virus which
> McAfee calls "W32/MTX@MM". However, when I go to their site and look up
> info on the behavior of this virus, it doesn't exactly match the behavior
> on our infected machines. More importantly, McAfee refuses to clean it
> (even though we have the latest update and thw site implies that it can
> be cleaned). Anyone heard of this virus or any possible new variants?
> Can you offer any help? Is Norton AV better than McAfee?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
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> No, but I bet if you send the virus to a bunch of mailing lists and newsgroups
> they'll clean your clock... er, computer...
>
> If McAfee won't do it, try Symantec, or one of the other of dozens of virus
> protection programs.
>
> Oh, and back up your important data.  Now.
>
> -Adam
>
> Sean Breheny wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > First off, don't get scared, this isn't about a virus posted to the list :-)
> >
> > I work part time as a computer support tech here at Cornell and we have
> > got several computers which appear to be infected with a virus which
> > McAfee calls "W32/MTX@MM". However, when I go to their site and look up
> > info on the behavior of this virus, it doesn't exactly match the behavior
> > on our infected machines. More importantly, McAfee refuses to clean it
> > (even though we have the latest update and thw site implies that it can
> > be cleaned). Anyone heard of this virus or any possible new variants?
> > Can you offer any help? Is Norton AV better than McAfee?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sean
> >
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>Sounds like the voice of experience... ;-)
>
>-Adam
>
>Barry Gershenfeld wrote:
>> But *don't* write over your previous backup!
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> Hi Adam,
>
> That's why I am telnetting to another server in order to send these
> emails to the piclist :-)
>
> Yes, we are backing up the data on all the machines which are infected.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean

>Hi Sean.
>
>You can find the description here :
>
>http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusChar.asp?virus_k=98797
>
>McAfee says that it will be cleaned with DAT 4095.
>
>rgds
>Jan

>
> Sorry for the OT and more virus stuff.
>
> I received some email the other day and all I did was single click a
> message and as soon as focus shifted to it, some sort of exe program
> executed, and I'm pretty sure i have a worm or virus or something
> although the latest VET doesn't report it. All I saw as a window open
> and close so quickly that I couldn't make out what it was.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to stop things like this happening with
> Microsofts mail program? I looked through the options etc. but can't see
> how to make my mail just readable - not executable as it pleases.
>
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>
> Tony
>
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>

> > Yes, delete M$ IE and install netscape like
> > any sensible internet user. :o)
> > -Roman
>
> Netscape?  Yuck!  Linux and Kmail, or better yet Pine!
>
> <big grin here, just stirring the pot...  I'm *kidding*, folks!!>
>
> Dale
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>>From: Dale Botkin [daleEraseME.....botkin.org]
>>
>>>Yes, delete M$ IE and install netscape like
>>>any sensible internet user. :o)
>>>-Roman
>>>
>>Netscape?  Yuck!  Linux and Kmail, or better yet Pine!
>>
>><big grin here, just stirring the pot...  I'm *kidding*, folks!!>
>>
>>Dale
>>
>
>I wish you would have told my wife you were kidding.  After falling victim to
>badtrans, and receiving a few copies of goner (which she avoided opening), she
>backed-up all her data and installed Linux on her PC.
>
>The cool thing is that it's up and running fine.  I guess that says something
>for Red Hat's ease of install.
>
>The not so cool thing is that her PC came with a Winmodem, and I either have to
>get it to work, or find a real modem that's Linux compatible.  I think I may
>just bite the bullet and buy a real modem.
>
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>Sorry for the OT and more virus stuff.
>
>I received some email the other day and all I did was single click a
>message and as soon as focus shifted to it, some sort of exe program
>executed, and I'm pretty sure i have a worm or virus or something
>although the latest VET doesn't report it. All I saw as a window open
>and close so quickly that I couldn't make out what it was.
>
>Can anyone tell me how to stop things like this happening with
>Microsofts mail program? I looked through the options etc. but can't see
>how to make my mail just readable - not executable as it pleases.
>
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>
>Tony
>
>mICros
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>
> > From: Dale Botkin [spamBeGonedaleSTOPspamEraseMEbotkin.org]
> >
> > > Yes, delete M$ IE and install netscape like
> > > any sensible internet user. :o)
> > > -Roman
> >
> > Netscape?  Yuck!  Linux and Kmail, or better yet Pine!
> >
> > <big grin here, just stirring the pot...  I'm *kidding*, folks!!>
> >
> > Dale
>
> I wish you would have told my wife you were kidding.  After falling victim to
> badtrans, and receiving a few copies of goner (which she avoided opening), she
> backed-up all her data and installed Linux on her PC.
>
> The cool thing is that it's up and running fine.  I guess that says something
> for Red Hat's ease of install.
>
> The not so cool thing is that her PC came with a Winmodem, and I either have to
> get it to work, or find a real modem that's Linux compatible.  I think I may
> just bite the bullet and buy a real modem.
>
> -Mike
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> Bite the bullet.  You'll thank yourself time and time again.
>
> -Adam
>
> Dipperstein, Michael wrote:
>
> >>From: Dale Botkin [@spam@dale@spam@spam_OUTbotkin.org]
> >>
> >>>Yes, delete M$ IE and install netscape like
> >>>any sensible internet user. :o)
> >>>-Roman
> >>>
> >>Netscape?  Yuck!  Linux and Kmail, or better yet Pine!
> >>
> >><big grin here, just stirring the pot...  I'm *kidding*, folks!!>
> >>
> >>Dale
> >>
> >
> >I wish you would have told my wife you were kidding.  After falling victim to
> >badtrans, and receiving a few copies of goner (which she avoided opening), she
> >backed-up all her data and installed Linux on her PC.
> >
> >The cool thing is that it's up and running fine.  I guess that says something
> >for Red Hat's ease of install.
> >
> >The not so cool thing is that her PC came with a Winmodem, and I either have to
> >get it to work, or find a real modem that's Linux compatible.  I think I may
> >just bite the bullet and buy a real modem.
> >
> >-Mike
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> I got virus from piclist mail server
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> virus is
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> I-Worm.Magistr.b
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> someone shuld check piclist server or something else for viruses
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> Actually, it's a very useful and desirable setup for companies,
> corporations and even ISP's.  It's not anywhere close to censorship,
> unless you convince the virus companies to start adding certian phrases
> to their software (which is unliklely).
>
> In all of those cases there are benefits for the person running the
> server, for instance most new viruses send copies of not only
> themselves, but documents from the user's hard drive.  These extra
> emails can quickly clog an email server, especially in a large
> organization, nevermind the spreading/destruction of potentially
> sensitive information.
>
> User education only goes so far.
>
> Having to administer a network, I've had to deal with 3 of the top five
> current viruses listed on antivirus.com .  I would welcome email server
> scanning of viruses, since they all come from email, and I have a
> chronic problem with users that forward everything.  I don't control the
> mail server right now (outsourced) though, so I'm using a corporate
> virus scanner which the user's can't change and I can control remotely -
> about the best solution so far, as they are always up to date.
>
> Besides, censorship is so time consuming that it's not cost effective.
>  It's easy to censor something that has limited information (such as a
> newspaper - there are only so many articles per day) but you really
> can't control the distribution of email, web sites, etc since they are
> dynamic and there is simply too much information.  Any rules based
> system can be defeated.  Even the lists of 'objectionable' web sites are
> not good, and there are easy ways to get around every program that
> implements such a system.
>
> So, in essence, it's easier, better, cheaper, etc to make a policy,
> educate the employees (or customers) and enforce the policy using normal
> methods.  People who try to control information (and therefore people)
> are going to be constantly frustrated.
>
> Virus protection, however, encompasses such a small space that it's
> relatively easy to do electronically.
>
> -Adam
>
> John Ferrell wrote:
>
> >Virus scanning at the server level would be an early step towards censorship
> >of all traffic!
> >
> >Not a desirable attribute.
> >