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'[OT]: What spam filter are you using'
2003\09\28@224021 by Tal

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The amount of spam in my inbox seem to grow exponentially so I decided
to install spam filter. My preference is an Outlook plug-in that allow
to control and view the spam from Outlook itself. I wonder if any of the
list members has any good or bad experience with such a product.

I just installed SpamNet Pro and currently evaluating it. It seems to
work well so far but I am concerned because it requires frequent
connections and subscription to the service.

Regards,

Tal

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2003\09\28@224849 by Greg Deputy

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Try SA Proxy.  It uses the open source product Spam Assassin.  Very
configurable, free, works great.  I currently get about a 5-1 spam to
email I care about ratio, and SAProxy catches 95% of it, I have yet to
have a false positive.  It works as a 'proxy' between outlook (or any
other mail client) and your mail server, and flags spam by altering the
subject line so you can set up a rule to dump those into a box for your
review, or just toss them.  Get it at

http://saproxy.bloomba.com


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2003\09\28@225058 by Marcelo Puhl

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       PopFile and K9 are the best spam filters available.
       Both are free.


On 28 Sep 2003 at 19:39, Tal wrote:

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2003\09\29@001421 by Randy Glenn

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I use SpamAssassin - but on my own IMAP server (a Linux box under my
desk) that downloads my various POP, Hotmail (via Gotmail) and Yahoo
(via Fetchyahoo) mail, and sorts it using Procmail on said Linux box.

A complicated setup to be sure, but what little spam I received before
is sent to my Spam folder, and that which it doesn't catch I flag for
scanning by the Bayesian filter so that it can learn.

It's a complicated setup, but it works, and my email is accessible from
anywhere - through a Web interface, or on any of my computers (IMAP
stores folders server-side). Very convenient once it's working.
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On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 22:39, Tal wrote:
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2003\09\29@022410 by Nate Duehr
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 07:39:45PM -0700, Tal wrote:
> The amount of spam in my inbox seem to grow exponentially so I decided
> to install spam filter. My preference is an Outlook plug-in that allow
> to control and view the spam from Outlook itself. I wonder if any of the
> list members has any good or bad experience with such a product.

I use SpamAssassin on all of my Unix-based servers.  It, along with some
specific filters at the MTA (like throwing out ANYTHING that has the
word Viagra in it...) keeps me down to about four or five spam messages
getting through in a day, and my mail volume is over 500 messages/day.

> I just installed SpamNet Pro and currently evaluating it. It seems to
> work well so far but I am concerned because it requires frequent
> connections and subscription to the service.

Friends that use Windows machines rave about this :

http://www.cloudmark.com/

I haven't tried it myself, but it comes very highly recommended.

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2003\09\29@024732 by Roger, in Bangkok

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I like mailwasher http://www.mailwasher.net.  You view the mail before
it downloads, so you can bounce it making the sender think your address
is bogus.  It also interfaces with SpamCop and pre-selects their listees
as spam (you can unselect if you want the email).  After I preview/make
my bounce or delete selections I click on the "process" button and it
downloads everything through my Outlook 2000.  Works great!

Regards/Roger, in Bangkok


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2003\09\29@030639 by Ian Bell

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On Monday 29 Sep 2003 3:39 am, you wrote:
> The amount of spam in my inbox seem to grow exponentially so I decided
> to install spam filter. My preference is an Outlook plug-in that allow
> to control and view the spam from Outlook itself. I wonder if any of the
> list members has any good or bad experience with such a product.

My linux mail reader allows me to check for spam on the server.  Saves a whole
lot  of wasted download time on my 56k connection.

Ian

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2003\09\29@040732 by Hulatt, Jon

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I am forced to use outlook and exchange here at work, and thus all the pop
proxy/ imap proxy systems do not work. But, I have found a fantastic
solution, in SpamBayes - it's an open source implementation of a Bayesian
Filter, which I would highly advocate. It's stunningly accurate.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

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2003\09\29@042846 by Howard Winter

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Rene,

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:08:38 +0200, renespamspam_OUTDUBARON.COM wrote:

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> but, imho it would even be better if piclist had a uniform tag in the subject line like [piclist]. that
> would really simplify filtering out list messages.

I just filter on "PICLIST" being in the "To:" field - so far it's been 100% reliable.  It also means that any
spam/virus message that's masquerading as being from the PIClist ends up in my general Inbox, which it makes
it obvious that it's not genuine (because it was sent directly to me, not to the list).

Back on topic, I use JunkSpy from Sundial Systems (http://www.junkspy.com/Features/features.html).  It does
regular updates to its detectors (automatically), and you forward any missed spam or false positives to them
so that their detection improves for everyone, not just for you.  It needs a POP3 email client, but as that's
what I use it isn't a problem!  I use the OS/2 version but they have a Windows version too.  Interestingly,
the Windows download file is three times the size of the OS/2 one!  :-)  And, of course, you can download a
trial version without spending any money...

Cheers,

Howard Winter
St.Albans, England

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2003\09\29@104421 by llile

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I use Mailwasher.

It is free to use, they guiy asks for $3 donation.  It maintains a
blacklist on your computer and also links with a national blacklist.  It
allows you to preview messages, but cannot execute viruses or VBscripts,
so you are less likely to be hoodwinked by one of those tricky subject
lines.   It maintains a local friends list, and as time goes on it seems
to get sharper and sharper about zeroing in on spammers.

http://www.mailwasher.com



-- Lawrence Lile





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The amount of spam in my inbox seem to grow exponentially so I decided
to install spam filter. My preference is an Outlook plug-in that allow
to control and view the spam from Outlook itself. I wonder if any of the
list members has any good or bad experience with such a product.

I just installed SpamNet Pro and currently evaluating it. It seems to
work well so far but I am concerned because it requires frequent
connections and subscription to the service.

Regards,

Tal

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2003\09\29@120037 by Tal

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> I use SpamAssassin on all of my Unix-based servers.  It,
> along with some specific filters at the MTA (like throwing
> out ANYTHING that has the word Viagra in it...) keeps me down
> to about four or five spam messages getting through in a day,
> and my mail volume is over 500 messages/day.
>

How do you review the spam list, just in case an important message was
classified as spam ? Do you use a separate web interface ? Can you do
the review in your email client, e.g. using a digest message ?

A friend of mine is using mail service with SpamAssasin and is very
happy with it. However, to review the spam list he needs to be online
and use a separate web interface.

SpamNet runs very nicely inside Outlook and does not need any training
since it gets its knowledge from the community. The down side, if you
are using slow internet connection (which I don't), is that all
messages, including spam are downloaded.

Tal

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'[OT]: What spam filter are you using'
2003\10\01@191552 by Herbert Graf
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> The amount of spam in my inbox seem to grow exponentially so I decided
> to install spam filter. My preference is an Outlook plug-in that allow
> to control and view the spam from Outlook itself. I wonder if any of the
> list members has any good or bad experience with such a product.
>
> I just installed SpamNet Pro and currently evaluating it. It seems to
> work well so far but I am concerned because it requires frequent
> connections and subscription to the service.

       I'm using K9, excellent piece of software, and free. TTYL

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