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2019\01\01@103521 by Isaac M. Bavaresco

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Hi Neil!

The list seems to be OK. The PEOPLE are gone...

Cheers,
Isaac

Em seg, 21 de jan de 2019 12:29, Neil <spam_OUTpicdude3TakeThisOuTspamnarwani.org escreveu:

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2019\01\01@104157 by Jean-Paul Louis

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Hmmm... my last list message is 4 days old.
Jean-Paul N1JPL 

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 On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:29 AM, Neil<.....picdude3KILLspamspam@spam@narwani.org> wrote:   This should tell me.

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2019\01\01@104723 by Josh Koffman

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On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:35 AM Isaac M. Bavaresco
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> The list seems to be OK. The PEOPLE are gone...

Interestingly I've received very little email over the past couple
days. Across a few accounts, not just this one. Maybe people have
abandoned email in favour of snail mail?

Josh
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2019\01\02@041247 by Chris Roper

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 17:57, Neil <.....picdude3KILLspamspam.....narwani.org> wrote:

> Nope... carrier pigeons.
> (Yes, I finally got into Game of Thrones)
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But they use Crows ..................
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2019\01\02@172957 by Neil

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This I don't remember.
I'm in season 5 now, and realized that I haven't seen a messaging bird in some time now.  Perhaps they have cell phone service by this time. ;)

Cheers,
-Neil.


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2019\01\03@083721 by David Van Horn

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Fondly remembering the days when I got somewhere over 1000 emails a day from this list.


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2019\01\03@090722 by AB Pearce - UKRI STFC

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A large number of them with Olin telling people to do due engineering diligence ... :)


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Fondly remembering the days when I got somewhere over 1000 emails a day from this list.


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2019\01\04@005801 by Sean Breheny

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I believe that Olin and Russell are two of the main contributors at
electronics.stackexchange.com

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2019\01\21@102828 by Neil

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This should tell me.

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2019\01\21@105117 by Neil

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Great thanks.


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2019\01\21@105703 by Neil

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Nope... carrier pigeons.
(Yes, I finally got into Game of Thrones)

Cheers,
-Neil.



On 1/21/2019 10:46 AM, Josh Koffman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:35 AM Isaac M. Bavaresco
> <EraseMEisaacbavarescospamgmail.com> wrote:
>> The list seems to be OK. The PEOPLE are gone...
> Interestingly I've received very little email over the past couple
> days. Across a few accounts, not just this one. Maybe people have
> abandoned email in favour of snail mail?
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> Josh

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2019\01\21@115524 by John J. McDonough

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On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 13:35 -0300, Isaac M. Bavaresco wrote:
> Hi Neil!
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> The list seems to be OK. The PEOPLE are gone...

Apparently all hiding from the weather

--McD


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2019\01\21@125618 by David C Brown

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2019\01\21@143003 by Dave Lagzdin

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 10:47, Josh Koffman <RemoveMEjoshybearTakeThisOuTspamspamgmail.com> wrote:

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> Interestingly I've received very little email over the past couple
> days. Across a few accounts, not just this one. Maybe people have
> abandoned email in favour of snail mail?
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> Josh
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> EH?  You move to some other country with efficient mail while I wasn't
looking?
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2019\01\21@202626 by RussellMc

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 04:57, Neil <EraseMEpicdude3spamspamspamBeGonenarwani.org> wrote:

> Nope... carrier pigeons.
> (Yes, I finally got into Game of Thrones)
>
> Were  (still) used in WW2 to carry messages from occupied France to
Britain.
Very likely in other war-zones since :-( !.

Digs.
Agh.
A subject that seemed worth a good look through.
Much learned.
Some may even be useful :-).
Work ...


https://wiki2.org/en/War_pigeon

WW2 bomber crew rescue (probably otherwise would all have died)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-17138990

WW1 major aid to 194 isolated US troops undergoing "friendly fire" from
artillery
https://wiki2.org/en/Lost_Battalion_(World_War_I)

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Legion
https://www.google.com/search?q=&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CfxDtVrdINBXIji4_1T2_1JGW97e0NaPw0hD2FyCmJm0zT4Bu8gBRYuyz3bjElE_1yelGMJ1k_1bT6C0GXWdAQKIKPIGkCoSCbj9Pb8kZb3tEa0r0x3-QeoPKhIJ7Q1o_1DSEPYUR63bqy58VYCgqEgnIKYmbTNPgGxEME5pVerFVsioSCbyAFFi7LPduEbdr2xA_1fn9uKhIJMSUT_1J6UYwkROpl65FUR4ZEqEgnWT9tPoLQZdRH5-h4JTMob1SoSCZ0BAogo8gaQEUpxYeCG45r_1&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiknu6VmYDgAhVNfX0KHVo3DXMQ9C96BAgBEBs&biw=1602&bih=948&dpr=1

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https://listverse.com/2016/07/05/10-heroic-wartime-pigeons/

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_member_of_the_crew_of_an_RAF_Coastal_Command_Lockheed_Hudson_holding_a_carrier_pigeon,_1942._TR42.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/A_member_of_the_crew_of_an_RAF_Coastal_Command_Lockheed_Hudson_holding_a_carrier_pigeon%2C_1942._TR42.jpg

https://www.classicwarbirds.co.uk/articles/pigeons-at-war-the-raf-and-the-national-pigeon-service.php

www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-carrier-pigeon-nb-leg-capsule-in-a-protective-vest-or-bra-used-in-73702170.html
:
The pigeon vest or 'bra' - an American WW2 devised method to protect
carrier pigeons strapped to the chests of paratroopers as they dropped to
the ground. The pigeon was a largely reliable (95% success rate) method of
communicating carrying messages in a capsule attached to a leg. 32 pigeons
of about 56,000 in service by the USA and 250,000 by the UK in WW2 received
the Dickin Medal for their contribution. The pigeon 'bra' was designed by
Ida Rosenthal & manufactured by Maidenform a brassiere company which made
about 28,000 vests for the US Government.



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Good
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/our-gallant-second-world-war-pigeons-have-been-unjustly-ridiculed/


*EXCELLENT MATERIAL:*

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325607/Wartime-Britains-extraordinary-methods-devised-sending-pigeons-Hitler.html

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https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/carrier-pigeons-wwii.html

including

The birds were dropped in small containers attached to a parachute into
occupied Europe.  Locals who found the birds sent messages back advising of
the status of the Germans in their locality.  Many of the pigeons flew over
four hundred miles to deliver their secrets.

*According to a 1943 report, the majority of the pigeons were dropped in
northern France.   *

In 1941, six hundred and ninety birds were dropped, with one hundred and
fifty returned, and of those, eighty-two brought back messages.

In 1942, two thousand and forty-four were dropped and two hundred and
seventy-six came back with one hundred and forty-six messages.

In 1943, five thousand eight hundred and fourteen were dropped, six hundred
and thirty-four returned and three hundred and sixty-six messages were
delivered.


In 1944, a pigeon by the name of Lucia di Lammermoor was released and
captured by the Germans.  When she returned to the Allied troops, she was
carrying a message that read, To the American Troops: Herewith we return a
pigeon to you. We have enough to eat. —The German Troops.
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2019\01\22@002123 by Bob Blick

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If Leslie Jackson had the pigeon bra it would have spoiled one of the sight gags in A Hard Day's Night:

https://youtu.be/avPtvIiZlrA?t=470

Bob

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The pigeon vest or 'bra' - an American WW2 devised method to protect
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2019\01\22@002653 by Richard Pope

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Bob,
    Can we talk in private?
Thanks and GOD Bless,
rich!

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2019\01\22@075858 by Neil

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LOL yes I remember this after I posted it.


On 1/22/2019 4:12 AM, Chris Roper wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 17:57, Neil <EraseMEpicdude3spamEraseMEnarwani.org> wrote:
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>> Nope... carrier pigeons.
>> (Yes, I finally got into Game of Thrones)
>>
> But they use Crows ..................

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2019\01\22@140742 by Richard Prosser

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Ravens?

RP

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2019\01\22@163000 by Chris Roper

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Richard is correct - It is Ravens, my bad too.


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2019\01\22@173125 by John Gardner

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Dunno that the list has gone bad - Maybe a bit more

than usually soggy lately ?    "8)

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2019\01\22@174827 by AB Pearce - UKRI STFC

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There weren't enough apples to feed the birds. The androids got them ... :))



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This I don't remember.
I'm in season 5 now, and realized that I haven't seen a messaging bird in some time now.  Perhaps they have cell phone service by this time. ;)

Cheers,
-Neil.


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2019\01\23@102628 by mike brown

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 08:15 AB Pearce - UKRI STFC <alan.b.pearcespamBeGonespamstfc.ac.uk
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> A large number of them with Olin telling people to do due engineering
> diligence ... :)
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Is that what he was saying?  I don't recall it coming out quite like that.
;)

That said, I really miss all the "discussion" that defined the pic list
family of members.  It really was a family, with associated dysfunction. ;)
I'm including the emoticons for those that may see my post and not
understand that I'm just kidding around.  I learned so much from this list,
and I'd have really missed out had I not found it.  I have to admit that I
do little PIC programming these days, I tend to write C code and test using
the Arduino environment.  My chips of choice these days are either an
ATMega328 or some kind of 32 bit ARM when I need more power.  As painful as
it all was back in the early 2000s, I wouldn't trade the experience for
anything.  Arduino is convenient, but nothing kick-starts an education like
having to solder up a programmer, read and decipher the datasheets, write
assembler bit banging serial comms, and flash the result using mplab.  The
real education comes when you apply power and nothing happens.  I'm truly
glad that the Arduino environment exists, because it's opened the doors for
so many kids to get started with this stuff.  The downside is that it's too
easy to be spoiled by the vast number of prewritten libraries hiding what's
really going on and a public forum willing to answer the most basic
questions over and over.  The one thing truly lacking in the Arduino world
is an Olin that "encourages" people to try figuring things out on their own
before throwing their hands up and running for help.  He and I certainly
had our differences, but I'm forever grateful for having had the
opportunity to learn a few things from him.  I hope he's doing well.

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