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2005\09\30@180007 by Carey Fisher - NCS

This is a hoot: http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html 73, K8VZ

2005\09\30@195045 by John J. McDonough

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Fisher - NCS" <spam_OUTcareyfisherTakeThisOuTncsradio.com> Subject: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > This is a hoot: > > http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html Bummer it has to be RM. Block that stuff at the firewall. 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35

2005\09\30@203240 by Carey Fisher - NCS

> -----Original Message----- > From: .....piclist-bouncesKILLspam@spam@mit.edu [piclist-bouncesKILLspammit.edu]On Behalf > Of John J. McDonough > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:51 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carey Fisher - NCS" <.....careyfisherKILLspam.....ncsradio.com> > Subject: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > > This is a hoot: > > > > http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html > > Bummer it has to be RM. Block that stuff at the firewall. > You block Russell at your firewall???? .... .. .... .. -.. . -.- ---.. ...- --..

2005\09\30@211028 by John J. McDonough

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Fisher - NCS" <EraseMEcareyfisherspam_OUTTakeThisOuTncsradio.com> Subject: RE: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > {Original Message removed}

2005\09\30@213649 by David Van Horn

1: Clean the bird poop off the antenna before filming. 2: How the hell did they get those camera angles?

'[OT] QST - calling all hams...'
2005\10\01@074206 by Tom Sefranek

David Van Horn wrote: >1: Clean the bird poop off the antenna before filming. > Cleaning at 100 feet is NOT recommended. >2: How the hell did they get those camera angles? > > Hell had nothing to do with the bucket truck they used, (Look for the shadows!) Tom -- * | __O Thomas C. Sefranek WA1RHPspam_OUTARRL.net |_-\<,_ Amateur Radio Operator: WA1RHP (*)/ (*) Bicycle mobile on 145.41, 448.625 MHz hamradio.cmcorp.com/inventory/Inventory.html http://www.harvardrepeater.org

2005\10\01@082359 by Spehro Pefhany

At 08:36 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote: >1: Clean the bird poop off the antenna before filming. >2: How the hell did they get those camera angles? Perhaps from something like this: http://www.spieringskranen.nl/pdf/SK477-AT4_gb.pdf >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" @spam@speffKILLspaminterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

2005\10\01@091121 by David Van Horn

> Hell had nothing to do with the bucket truck they used, > (Look for the shadows!) I missed that. Good job though, nice steady shots. I didn't think you could get that high in a bucket truck though.

2005\10\02@165402 by Carey Fisher - NCS

I asked how they got the shots and here's what Lissa said: It was a pretty big "bucket truck" - 125 feet up! But we were lucky with the weather 'cause it gets pretty windy up there! Best wishes Lissa Carey, K8VZ Support the FairTax HR25 http://fairtax.org/ > {Original Message removed}

2005\10\03@100556 by gacrowell

> -----Original Message----- > From: KILLspampiclist-bouncesKILLspammit.edu > [RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTmit.edu] On Behalf Of John J. McDonough > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 5:51 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carey Fisher - NCS" <spamBeGonecareyfisherspamBeGonencsradio.com> > Subject: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > > This is a hoot: > > > > http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html > > Bummer it has to be RM. Block that stuff at the firewall. RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out there? For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now must install iTunes to get QT. GC

2005\10\03@101626 by John J. McDonough

----- Original Message ----- From: <TakeThisOuTgacrowellEraseMEspam_OUTmicron.com> To: <RemoveMEpiclistTakeThisOuTmit.edu> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out there? There MUST be some Linux alternative, no? > For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now must > install iTunes to get QT. Seems like every camera, DVD burner, etc installs a lamed up version of QT. Works OK for looking at video clips but it constantly nags you to go install the full thing. Fortunately, some of the video software (ArcSoft maybe?) will convert QT to MPEG. But I haven't seen anything that will touch RM. --McD

2005\10\03@103653 by John Pfaff

It's not easy to find at http://www.real.com/ but there is a RealPlayer 10 for Linux. John J. McDonough wrote: > {Original Message removed}

2005\10\03@104605 by John J. McDonough

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pfaff" <jpfaff1528EraseME.....verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > It's not easy to find at http://www.real.com/ but there is a RealPlayer 10 > for Linux. Pity. The existence of one from Real probably means that there isn't a "not a virus" version. --McD

2005\10\03@111638 by Michael Rigby-Jones

{Quote hidden}>-----Original Message----- >From: EraseMEpiclist-bouncesmit.edu [RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesEraseMEEraseMEmit.edu] >Sent: 03 October 2005 15:06 >To: RemoveMEpiclistspam_OUTKILLspammit.edu >Subject: RE: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTspammit.edu >> [EraseMEpiclist-bouncesspamspamBeGonemit.edu] On Behalf Of John J. McDonough >> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 5:51 PM >> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. >> Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carey Fisher - NCS" <RemoveMEcareyfisherKILLspamncsradio.com> >> Subject: [OT] QST - calling all hams... >> >> >> > This is a hoot: >> > >> > http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html >> >> Bummer it has to be RM. Block that stuff at the firewall. > >RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out there? > >For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now >must install iTunes to get QT. You can get a Quicktime codec that lets you use Windows Media Player (and any other player that uses the windows codecs) http://www.free-codecs.com/QuickTime_Alternative_download.htm The equivalent real player codec is here http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm I have not tried either of these! Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. =======================================================================

2005\10\03@115757 by David Van Horn

> the full thing. Fortunately, some of the video software (ArcSoft maybe?) > will convert QT to MPEG. But I haven't seen anything that will touch RM. K-Lite MegaCodec is what I use. KLMcodec138 http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm

2005\10\03@142533 by Peter

This is likely what you want (Helix DNA / RealPlayer for many systems): http://www.helixcommunity.org/ Peter

2005\10\03@142914 by Peter

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, John J. McDonough wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pfaff" <jpfaff1528STOPspamspam_OUTverizon.net> > Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > >> It's not easy to find at http://www.real.com/ but there is a RealPlayer 10 >> for Linux. > > Pity. The existence of one from Real probably means that there isn't a "not > a virus" version. I don't know what you mean by 'virus'. I have RealPlayer 10 on Linux (and older RealPlayer 8) and it works fine. No nagware at all. It also sounds better than MP3 at the same data rate and many news/tv stations use this format. The only problem I see is, when installed it configures the system to open a lot of file formats with realplay, which it shouldn't. This mostly affects a file called ~/.mailcap on *nix systems so backing that up will give you a chance to back out of its unwanted changes, if any. Peter

2005\10\03@221104 by Jose Da Silva

On October 3, 2005 07:05 am, spamBeGonegacrowellSTOPspamEraseMEmicron.com wrote: > RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out > there? Most people remember to clear cookies out of the browser, but don't realize this has it's version of cookies too. There is an option where you can turn-off realplayer cookies. > For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now must > install iTunes to get QT. I don't think you could call it a virus for the reason that you need to install iTunes. You'll need to brush up on your dictionary definition for what viruses are, and neither of these appear to be that, AFAIK.

2005\10\03@224437 by Jinx

> RealPlayer is a virus I wouldn't call RP a virus. If you aren't careful when you install it (taking note of default settings and unticking options for example) it does dial home. You can see it trying if you have anything like Zone Alarm. I believe they got in trouble a few years ago for being too aggressive - ISTR it might have been in conjunction with doubleclick. I've used RP for a long time and it's fine. The s/w that appears to cause more trouble on the family's computers is the likes of Gator, Kazaa and some MSN. Anything aimed at careless tweenies and teenagers

2005\10\04@065813 by John J. McDonough

To be more precise for the dictionary freaks, RP used to be a trojan. It was a program designed to collect marketing information for sale pretending as a video player. I haven't used RP in a while, so it is possible that they have changed, but I've never been a big believer in the leapord changing his spots. My suspicion (no data) is that they have just gotten sneakier. No doubt about Gator and Kazaa. Haven't used/studied MSN, but it is annoying that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to turn it off. At least it appears to be benign, but I only run it for a few hours after installing Windows, so it could do all sorts of nasty things and I wouldn't know. I have taken to turning off all outgoing connects at the bastion firewall whenever I install software. Generally these phone home things make their first call just at install time, and lots of honest programs make their only call then. The firewall then happily logs all attempts for me to study. --McD {Original Message removed}

2005\10\04@113008 by gacrowell

{Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: KILLspampiclist-bouncesspamBeGonemit.edu > [EraseMEpiclist-bouncesEraseMEmit.edu] On Behalf Of Jose Da Silva > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:17 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > On October 3, 2005 07:05 am, @spam@gacrowell@spam@spam_OUTmicron.com wrote: > > RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out > > there? > > Most people remember to clear cookies out of the browser, but don't > realize this has it's version of cookies too. > There is an option where you can turn-off realplayer cookies. > > > For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now must > > install iTunes to get QT. > > I don't think you could call it a virus for the reason that > you need to > install iTunes. You'll need to brush up on your dictionary > definition > for what viruses are, and neither of these appear to be that, AFAIK. > > --

2005\10\04@125057 by Jose Da Silva

On October 4, 2005 08:30 am, spamBeGonegacrowellKILLspammicron.com wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Subject: Re: [OT] QST - calling all hams... > > > > On October 3, 2005 07:05 am, .....gacrowellspam_OUTmicron.com wrote: > > > RealPlayer is a virus. Isn't there an alternative RM player out > > > there? > > > > Most people remember to clear cookies out of the browser, but don't > > realize this has it's version of cookies too. > > There is an option where you can turn-off realplayer cookies. > > > > > For that matter Quicktime is too; as far as I can tell you now > > > must install iTunes to get QT. > > > > I don't think you could call it a virus for the reason that > > you need to > > install iTunes. You'll need to brush up on your dictionary > > definition > > for what viruses are, and neither of these appear to be that, > > AFAIK. > > For the sarcasm impaired, I meant that the advertising, extra install > crap, nagging, take-over all extensions, uninstall rodeo, and general > inconvenience of all of this type of software just isn't worth the > effort. In my book, that makes it just as undesirable as any > 'virus'. I'll agree with the other thread (by John J. McDonough) which refers to them as trojan or data collection type software, in which case you might as well include windows-XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 plus a fair bit of software created after the internet became a common commodity. cheers!

2005\10\04@134640 by gacrowell

> I'll agree with the other thread (by John J. McDonough) which > refers to > them as trojan or data collection type software, in which case you > might as well include windows-XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 plus a fair bit of > software created after the internet became a common commodity. To an extent and getting worse, I agree. But RealPlayer and QT are *particularly* obtrusive. GC

2005\10\04@145924 by M. Adam Davis

If you want a realplayer that doesn't come with most of the junk that it usually is bundled with, get it from a link at Cartalk. Their users complained so much that for awhile they stopped using RP altogether, but eventually came to a solution with Real, which involved Real supplying a non-junk version of realplayer for cartalk listeners. It's not perfect, but I haven't had any problems with advertising or spying. Of course, I usually use VLC when possible, and find that it plays realplayer streams just fine. http://cartalk.com/ http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=cartalk.com VLC: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ -Adam On 10/4/05, TakeThisOuTgacrowell.....TakeThisOuTmicron.com <TakeThisOuTgacrowellKILLspamspammicron.com> wrote: {Quote hidden}> > > I'll agree with the other thread (by John J. McDonough) which > > refers to > > them as trojan or data collection type software, in which case you > > might as well include windows-XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 plus a fair bit of > > software created after the internet became a common commodity. > > To an extent and getting worse, I agree. But RealPlayer and QT are > *particularly* obtrusive. > > GC > > -

2005\10\05@065540 by Ling SM

> Of course, I usually use VLC when possible, and find that it plays > realplayer streams just fine. > Finally got rid of the RealPlayer and could not get VLC to do real video. VLC site says NO too. Hmm ??? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html Ling SM

2005\10\05@084610 by Ling SM

>> Of course, I usually use VLC when possible, and find that it plays >> realplayer streams just fine. >> > > Finally got rid of the RealPlayer and could not get VLC to do real > video. VLC site says NO too. Hmm ??? > > http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html This one is finally fatal for RP, the mega version of K-Lite codec is tested to do RM and RMVB with the media player classic here. It also has QT codec, yes it killing two spyware in a go. http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm More fun here: http://100-downloads.com/ Ling SM

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