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2009\04\24@204627 by Xiaofan Chen

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After testing the 9.04 release cd using the live session, I decided to install
Ubuntu 9.04. The installation is very smooth on my Acer desktop, just
like the 8.10 version. The only thing I need to do is to use the Nvidia
proprietary driver instead of the open-source Xorg driver in order to
get the full resolution since the open source driver does not support
my NForce620i/GeForce7100 well enough.

The first improvement is that the bootup time is quite fast. The second
thing is that Compiz is automatically enabled. I disabled it after a
one minute.

Then I installed various packages I use (cvs, svn, git, various development
related packages) and thanks to the fast mirror in Singapore and my
8MB cable modem connection, the process is painless.

I was having problem accessing a share folder from the other XP
notebook with my Ubuntu 8.10 installation. 9.04 has no problems
accessing that. Unfortunately I still had the performance problem
when copying big file under Gnome. I had the same problem
with my Arch installation. It is about 2-2.2MB/sec. I was getting
about 7MB/sec with Fedora 10 under Gnome. Strange.

Overall the first impression is positive even though there are
not really any excitement to mention about. I was already
using the notify-osd feature under Ubuntu 8.10.

The next thing is to try out KDE, XFCE and LXDE. I guess
I would not see much improvement there as well since I
was already running KDE 4.2.2, XFCE 4.6 under 8.10.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\24@211321 by solarwind

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I installed Kubuntu with KDE4.2.2. It's amazing. Fast, sleek, painless
and it's beautiful. Everything is there and its graphically appealing.
It's also very functional and feature rich. This is what Gnome/GTK
SHOULD be. For example, there is no comparison between Kopete and
Pidgin. With the new Qt 4 toolkit, it has a million more features than
Pidgin. Awesome. Only downside to KDE is that it's slow to login and
logout compared to Gnome. Other than that it's very impressive. I
installed it on my Dell 6000 laptop and everything worked out of the
box. The mouse driver was flawless, the screen was flawless and the
power management was flawless. Only thing was the wireless drivers
which did not get recognised - but this problem existed since forever
and it's easy to fix.

2009\04\24@211645 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Xiaofan Chen <spam_OUTxiaofancTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
> The next thing is to try out KDE, XFCE and LXDE. I guess
> I would not see much improvement there as well since I
> was already running KDE 4.2.2, XFCE 4.6 under 8.10.

Nothing special on the XFCE and LXDE. LXDE is fast but rather plain.
XFCE is not really that fast but more full-featured.

I have not found any really good impressions about KDE for
Ubuntu (or if you prefer Kubuntu) ever since I used 5.04. No
exception in 9.04. The startup time and logout time are both
ok, faster than Fedora 10. So that is a positive. But I got no
sound when playing MP3, similar to what I met when I installed
Arch Linux the first time. There is startup sound. The mixer
shows the correct device, just got no sound from other applications.
Maybe this is a pulse-audio problem with KDE. By comparison,
Gnome just works without any issues with 9.04, as always
even since 5.04 (ok I admit I had problems with 5.10 last time).

Anyway, then I tried to see if Samba performance is better
than Gnome (as is the case with Arch) or not. Not really.
I got even worse result than Gnome. It was 2.2MB/sec under
Gnome and now it is 1.8MB/sec under KDE.

So I guess KDE for Ubuntu or Kubuntu is really not giving me
a good impression. Maybe I will solve the problems sooner
or later. But the first impression is not good at all.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\24@211840 by Bob Blick

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Ubuntu 9.04 looks pretty good and ran smoothly for me. Kubuntu 9.04 was
sluggish and the new replacement KDE apps are missing functionality. KDE
4.2 still feels alpha/beta

Bob

2009\04\24@213610 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Bob Blick <.....bobblickKILLspamspam@spam@ftml.net> wrote:
> Ubuntu 9.04 looks pretty good and ran smoothly for me. Kubuntu 9.04 was
> sluggish and the new replacement KDE apps are missing functionality. KDE
> 4.2 still feels alpha/beta
>

Same conclusion here. Ubuntu 9.04 is good and very smooth.
Kubuntu 9.04 (KDE 4.2) is not as sluggish as the original
KDE 4.1 under 8.10 but still relatively slow. But that is not
the major problem as I already know this through running KDE
under Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 8.10.. Glitches with sound really
gave me bad impression.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\24@214250 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:13 AM, solarwind <x.solarwind.xspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:
> I installed Kubuntu with KDE4.2.2. It's amazing. Fast, sleek, painless
> and it's beautiful. Everything is there and its graphically appealing.
> It's also very functional and feature rich. This is what Gnome/GTK
> SHOULD be. For example, there is no comparison between Kopete and
> Pidgin.

Both have their good applications. For example, Adept/Kpackagekit
are all toys compared to Synaptic. So normally I install both even
though I tend to use Gnome much often.

> With the new Qt 4 toolkit, it has a million more features than
> Pidgin. Awesome. Only downside to KDE is that it's slow to login and
> logout compared to Gnome.

So it is not fast after all.
Sleek and beautiful, yes. Fast and painless, not yet.

There are many rough edges as well.
mcuee@ubuntu904:~$ kwrite
QThreadStorage: Thread 0x9030710 exited after QThreadStorage
2147483643 destroyed
Does this prompt serve any good purpose to the user?

I admit this seems to be better and more smooth than the previous
kDE version which comes with Ubuntu 8.10 and KDE 4.2.2 under
Fedora 10. But I would not say it is fast and painless yet.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\24@224542 by Marcel Duchamp

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
>
> Same conclusion here. Ubuntu 9.04 is good and very smooth.
> Kubuntu 9.04 (KDE 4.2) is not as sluggish as the original
> KDE 4.1 under 8.10 but still relatively slow. But that is not
> the major problem as I already know this through running KDE
> under Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 8.10.. Glitches with sound really
> gave me bad impression.
>

Ubuntu: even Huell Howser has an opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKTSa-NT5Oc

2009\04\24@230011 by solarwind

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Xiofan: You're not hearing mp3 audio because you probably did not
install the codec. Ubuntu/Kubuntu does not come with codecs for mp3
and therefore can not play them by default. You need to install them
if you haven't already.

2009\04\24@230058 by solarwind

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For me, KDE4.2.2 was awesome. It feels way better than alpha quality.
I guess different people have different experiences - but it worked
perfectly for me.

2009\04\24@232645 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, solarwind <.....x.solarwind.xKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
> Xiofan: You're not hearing mp3 audio because you probably did not
> install the codec. Ubuntu/Kubuntu does not come with codecs for mp3
> and therefore can not play them by default. You need to install them
> if you haven't already.

I have all the codec installed. I can play MP3 under Gnome without
an issue. It is related to pulse audio. I will solve this later.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\24@233348 by solarwind

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Xiaofan Chen <EraseMExiaofancspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> I have all the codec installed. I can play MP3 under Gnome without
> an issue. It is related to pulse audio. I will solve this later.

Can you please issue the following commands and post the output:

lspci
lsusb
cat /proc/cpuinfo

the first one is the most important.

2009\04\24@235041 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:33 AM, solarwind <x.solarwind.xspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Xiaofan Chen <@spam@xiaofancKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
>> I have all the codec installed. I can play MP3 under Gnome without
>> an issue. It is related to pulse audio. I will solve this later.
>
> Can you please issue the following commands and post the output:
>
> lspci
> lsusb
> cat /proc/cpuinfo

Anyway, KDE told me this during after startup.
"Notification from Phonon:
The audio playback device HDA Nvidia (ALC1200 Analog) does not
work. Falling back to default." And that default gives me login/logout
sound and some noise but no sound for other applications.

And the default sound play device under Gnome is "HDA Nvidia
(alsa mixer)" and that works fine. I did try other options like
pulseaudion under Gnomer and that is also working. Somewhat
KDE Phonon does not like my device...

Anyway, apparently kmix does work in this case. I use the other
mixer and  now I have sound under KDE.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@000816 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Xiaofan Chen <KILLspamxiaofancKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyway, KDE told me this during after startup.
> "Notification from Phonon:
> The audio playback device HDA Nvidia (ALC1200 Analog) does not
> work. Falling back to default." And that default gives me login/logout
> sound and some noise but no sound for other applications.
>
> And the default sound play device under Gnome is "HDA Nvidia
> (alsa mixer)" and that works fine. I did try other options like
> pulseaudion under Gnomer and that is also working. Somewhat
> KDE Phonon does not like my device...
>
> Anyway, apparently kmix does work in this case. I use the other
> mixer and  now I have sound under KDE.

After using the mixer to setup the correct device and now kmix
seems to work now. Still KDE based application like dragon player
will pop up the warning from Phonon. Anyway, I can play sound and
that is good enough for now.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@001321 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:33 AM, solarwind <RemoveMEx.solarwind.xTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
> Can you please issue the following commands and post the output:
>
> lspci
> lsusb
> cat /proc/cpuinfo

lsusb should have nothing to do with this since I am not using a USB
sound card. The only device not working under Linux is the CX23880
based PCI TV card. It was an old device and V4L does not
support it (Compro VideoMate X50). It caused me problems with
sound under Arch Linux. But other distros are ok with the setup.
I should probably disable the loading of the module though just like
what I did in Arch.

Here are the outputs.

mcuee@ubuntu904:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:03.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP73 SMBus (rev a1)
00:03.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:03.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Co-processor (rev a2)
00:03.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 [nForce 630i] USB 2.0
Controller (EHCI) (rev a1)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a1)
00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0e.0 RAID bus controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 SATA RAID
Controller (rev a2)
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100 /
nForce 620i (rev a2)
01:05.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems Device 0620
01:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc.
CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
01:06.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)
01:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II
IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller (rev c0)


mcuee@ubuntu904:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 04d8:8000 Microchip Technology, Inc. In-Circuit Debugger
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c054 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04d8:0033 Microchip Technology, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

mcuee@ubuntu904:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 15
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4700  @ 2.60GHz
stepping        : 11
cpu MHz         : 1203.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 10
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx
lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est
tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm
bogomips        : 5199.32
clflush size    : 64
power management:

processor       : 1
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 15
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4700  @ 2.60GHz
stepping        : 11
cpu MHz         : 1203.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id         : 1
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 10
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmovpat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx
lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est
tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm
bogomips        : 5199.84
clflush size    : 64
power management:




--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@012716 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Marcel Duchamp
<spamBeGonemarcel.duchampspamBeGonespamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Ubuntu: even Huell Howser has an opinion:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKTSa-NT5Oc

Hmm, what is the relation of this video with Ubuntu?

Are you saying that Ubuntu 9.04 is really amazing or things like that?
I will not say Ubuntu 9.04 is amazing. It is good but there are no much
excitement about it from my point of view.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@014911 by Luis.Moreira

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I have upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 on my Samsung NC10 which automatically
solved a few small problems I had running 8.10, it is very nice. I am
now on the process of upgrading my home PC, but I will leave my Compaq
laptop at 8.10 for now, and see how it goes.
Best Regards
               Luis


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2009\04\25@094533 by Marcel Duchamp

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Marcel Duchamp
> <TakeThisOuTmarcel.duchampEraseMEspamspam_OUTsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Ubuntu: even Huell Howser has an opinion:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKTSa-NT5Oc
>
> Hmm, what is the relation of this video with Ubuntu?
>
> Are you saying that Ubuntu 9.04 is really amazing or things like that?
> I will not say Ubuntu 9.04 is amazing. It is good but there are no much
> excitement about it from my point of view.
>

Sorry... just my twisted sense of humor.

2009\04\25@120129 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM, solarwind <RemoveMEx.solarwind.xspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> For me, KDE4.2.2 was awesome. It feels way better than alpha quality.
> I guess different people have different experiences - but it worked
> perfectly for me.

Yes it is perfect to some of the people. But some say that it is the
worst KDE distros out there.
http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/kubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-overview.html

I would not say that. After all, KDE 4.2.2 under Ubuntu 9.04
is pretty good compared to the one in Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora 10.
It is also faster than I expected. But it is still buggy for sometimes.
Konsole crashed once here just now after startup.

BTW, I disabled the loading of cx8800 related modules and it does not help
much. But anyway,  I feel better now that sound works for most of
the applications except dragon player.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@154250 by Tamas Rudnai

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I have some workaround about the menus. Once again, the problem is that when
I start an application from the Application menu then the window opens up in
the :0.0 screen no matter which screen I was using.

I have downloaded Opera web browser and it works correctly. It turns out
that actually they use a bash script to start the application so I had a
thought and it seems to be working. If I edit a menu item and put a 'bash
-c' in front of the command then the application opens up on the correct
screen.

Now have to find an easy way to replace all menu items to that or it also
might help to find the problem and fix it.

Tamas


On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Xiaofan Chen <xiaofancEraseMEspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

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2009\04\25@155459 by Gökhan SEVER

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I am happy using Fedora 10 on my Dell Latitude D630 laptop. Even though, I
have wrestled many times to bringing the system alive (especially after some
critical system updates --including kernel updates), we are still happily
living together, and I have no intention of cheating it with Ubuntu :)

I do not know what is your reason upgrading your system to the newest Ubuntu
(ok, little contradiction with myself, I can update 10 to 11 when it comes
out.)
It doesn't mean too much to me to have its booting speed increased by 10
secs because almost all the time the laptop is on :), works very well when
it comes to the Python language (especially for 2D and 3D visualization
purposes.) When it comes to PIC coding, I look a Win machine with a MPLAB
IDE on it :)

Other than that, skype works, sound works (even if sometimes makes me crazy
:)), wireless works, hmm as long as keep the system apart from unknown
updates it is always with me, and serving happily.

2009\04\25@192242 by Tamas Rudnai

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If anyone interested just wrote a small perl hack to change the menu items
into this 'bash -c' form so that all the applications are opening on the
right screen on my laptop.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7146630#post7146630

Thanks,
Tamas



On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Tamas Rudnai <RemoveMEtamas.rudnaiEraseMEspamEraseMEgmail.com>wrote:

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2009\04\25@193813 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Gökhan SEVER <EraseMEgstr2005spamspamspamBeGonegmail.com> wrote:
> I am happy using Fedora 10 on my Dell Latitude D630 laptop. Even though, I
> have wrestled many times to bringing the system alive (especially after some
> critical system updates --including kernel updates), we are still happily
> living together, and I have no intention of cheating it with Ubuntu :)

Yeah, Fedora is always kind of unstable to me. It has a lot of rough
edges compared to Ubuntu. But Fedora has some cutting edge
stuff which appear in Ubuntu later.

> I do not know what is your reason upgrading your system to the newest
> Ubuntu (ok, little contradiction with myself, I can update 10 to 11 when
> it comes out.)

I always run two or three Linux distros at the same time nowadays.
Part of the reason was that I do some testing of some PIC related
projects over the time and it is good to have a few common distros.
Ubuntu is always the main one. I use Fedora as well as long as it
boots (from Fedora Core 3/4/6 to Fedora 7/9/10). Fedora 8 does
not boot in my last PC due to conflict with FreeBSD and FreeBSD
won at that time. Now FreeBSD does not boot in my new PC.

I am also trying out Arch Linux.

--
Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@211608 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Xiaofan Chen <RemoveMExiaofancKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
> I was having problem accessing a share folder from the other XP
> notebook with my Ubuntu 8.10 installation. 9.04 has no problems
> accessing that. Unfortunately I still had the performance problem
> when copying big file under Gnome. I had the same problem
> with my Arch installation. It is about 2-2.2MB/sec. I was getting
> about 7MB/sec with Fedora 10 under Gnome. Strange.

It turns out the problem is not Ubuntu but the fact I forgot to
switch off the wireless connection on the XP notebook.

Now I got 8.8MB/sec under Gnome and 8.2MB/sec under
KDE for Ubuntu 9.04.

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Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\25@220649 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Xiaofan Chen <xiaofancSTOPspamspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Xiaofan Chen <spamBeGonexiaofancSTOPspamspamEraseMEgmail.com> wrote:
>> I was having problem accessing a share folder from the other XP
>> notebook with my Ubuntu 8.10 installation. 9.04 has no problems
>> accessing that. Unfortunately I still had the performance problem
>> when copying big file under Gnome. I had the same problem
>> with my Arch installation. It is about 2-2.2MB/sec. I was getting
>> about 7MB/sec with Fedora 10 under Gnome. Strange.
>
> It turns out the problem is not Ubuntu but the fact I forgot to
> switch off the wireless connection on the XP notebook.
>
> Now I got 8.8MB/sec under Gnome and 8.2MB/sec under
> KDE for Ubuntu 9.04.

I also check with the Vista share and the result is similar.
I got about 8.7MB/sec under Gnome and 7.2MB under
KDE with Dolphin. But with mount.cifs and dd I got 8.7MB/sec
as well for KDE. So it is much better to mount the remote
directory using mount.cifs under KDE. In that case, I would
not have problems with media players trying to copy large
files before playing it. Last time it seems VLC does not do that
but the VLC under 9.04 is also trying to do the same without
mounting the remote file system first to local.

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Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2009\04\26@214356 by Xiaofan Chen

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I have summarized my first impression with Ubuntu 9.04 using
Gnome/KDE/XFCE/LXDE in my blog (http://mcuee.blogspot.com).
The Gnome/KDE wallpaper is from EIOffice (http://www.evermoresw.com).

I do not like to use (and cannot remember )the strange names of
Ubuntu like Jaunty Jackalope. Actually I do not like to use names
like Kubuntu or Xubuntu either. Anyway, I use them in the blog
posts this time.

You can also read the weather report to see that these days
are really hot here: high temperature and high humidity.


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Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com

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