Post by thread:[OT] zen-er or zeener?

I always said it Zener rhymes with Wiener (Schnitzel). (-: -----Original Message----- From: spam_OUTpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTmit.edu [.....piclist-bouncesKILLspam@spam@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Martin K Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 0:19 To: piclistKILLspammit.edu Subject: [OT] zen-er or zeener? How do you guys (and gals) pronounce 'zener'? -- Martin K http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/

Hello, this is Zeenus Diodus and I pronounce zener, "zeener" http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav --- James. {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: .....piclist-bouncesKILLspam.....mit.edu > [EraseMEpiclist-bouncesspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmit.edu] On Behalf Of Martin K > Sent: 2005 Mar 21, Mon 15:19 > To: piclistspam_OUTmit.edu > Subject: [OT] zen-er or zeener? > > How do you guys (and gals) pronounce 'zener'? > > -- > Martin K > http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/ > -

Jinx wrote: >>How do you guys (and gals) pronounce 'zener'? > > > As in Zen And The Art Of ..... not Xena, Warrior Princess > > eh not ee > > zebra not zebra > Ok, ok, now I've got to check some references. Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Melvin_Zener ) says the diode in question was named after Mr. Zener. Photos of him can be seen here: http://www.aip.org/history/esva/catalog/esva/Zener_Melvin.html Looking further, the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition has a wav file indicating the pronunciation is zeeeeener as in Xena, Warrior Diode. Dictionaries are not always correct, nor are they representative of speech in far-flung wild places like New Zealand, as an example. Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it however you want. M

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:53 -0800, Marcel Duchamp <@spam@marcel.duchampKILLspamsbcglobal.net> wrote: {Quote hidden}> Jinx wrote: > >>How do you guys (and gals) pronounce 'zener'? > > As in Zen And The Art Of ..... not Xena, Warrior Princess > > > > eh not ee > > > > zebra not zebra > > Ok, ok, now I've got to check some references. > > Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Melvin_Zener ) says > the diode in question was named after Mr. Zener. Photos of him can be > seen here: > > www.aip.org/history/esva/catalog/esva/Zener_Melvin.html > > Looking further, the American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English > Language, Fourth Edition has a wav file indicating the pronunciation is > zeeeeener as in Xena, Warrior Diode. Dictionaries are not always > correct, nor are they representative of speech in far-flung wild places > like New Zealand, as an example. > > Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it however you > want. Merriam-Webster (http://www.m-w.com) has both pronunciations. I wonder if this doesn't simply follow the zee/zed difference. I say zeener and zeebra Bradley

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:44:28 -0600, Bradley Ferguson wrote: > I say zeener and zeebra If you want a long vowel, you need two of them (as above)! (Zeen and the art of motorcycle maintenance? :-) Zen, zen-uh, zeb-ruh, xen-on and in fact it ought to be Xen-uh Warrior Princess! :-) Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

> zeeeeener as in Xena, Warrior Diode > Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it > however you want Eeeeexactly. What's he gonna do about it ? Wooohoooohoooo correct pronunciation from beyond the grave ? Doubt it ;-) Good job on the investigative etymology - but you realise it changes nothing. Or we'd all be saying nucular eh

At 09.10 2005.03.22 -0800, you wrote: >Jinx wrote: >>>How do you guys (and gals) pronounce 'zener'? >> >>As in Zen And The Art Of ..... not Xena, Warrior Princess >>eh not ee >>zebra not zebra > >Ok, ok, now I've got to check some references. > >Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Melvin_Zener ) says the diode in question was named after Mr. Zener. Photos of him can be seen here: > >http://www.aip.org/history/esva/catalog/esva/Zener_Melvin.html > >Looking further, the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition has a wav file indicating the pronunciation is zeeeeener as in Xena, Warrior Diode. Dictionaries are not always correct, nor are they representative of speech in far-flung wild places like New Zealand, as an example. > >Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it however you want. Did he break down? ;-

Jinx, On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:24:59 +1200, Jinx wrote: > we'd all be saying nucular eh ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH! You hit a raw nerve there - I think anyone who can't pronounce "nuclear" should be disallowed from trying to say it on television. And certainly from being able to use weapons of that ilk! Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

At 22.54 2005.03.23 +1200, you wrote: >> >Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it >> however you want >> >> Did he break down? ;-< > >Put your head out the window. Hear that ? 2000 people groaning I tried that but I didn't hear anyone groaning!

>> >Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it >> however you want >> >> Did he break down? ;-< > >Put your head out the window. Hear that ? 2000 people groaning >I tried that but I didn't hear anyone groaning! problem is they are groaning in a different time zone. Just wait for the sound to work its way around the world to you :)))))

At 12.28 2005.03.23 +0000, you wrote: >>> >Of course, Mr. Zener is no longer with us so you can say it >>> however you want >>> >>> Did he break down? ;-< >> >>Put your head out the window. Hear that ? 2000 people groaning > >>I tried that but I didn't hear anyone groaning! > >problem is they are groaning in a different time zone. Just wait for the >sound to work its way around the world to you :))))) Now I finally heard them, woha! ;)