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'[PIC]: Asian copies of PICs - are they OK?'
2001\05\04@110709 by J.Feldhaar

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Hello all,

today I stumbled on an ad in the "Asiansources - electronic components"
journal. A company called G-Alantic Enterprise offers Microcontrollers,
and they give PIC 16C54, 55, 56, 57 and 16C711 as compatible products,
stating that these controllers are 100% compatible with PICs. Their
Website is at http://www.g-alantic.com.tw.
Anyone ever tested these?
Do they work as good and reliable as PICs?
Are they priced competitively?

Greetings
Jochen Feldhaar
DH6FAZ

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2001\05\04@133815 by Dal Wheeler

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Hmmm...  What kinds of prices/qtys are they quoting you?

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2001\05\04@165241 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>Hmmm...  What kinds of prices/qtys are they quoting you?

       Note they only have OTPs, and I haven't seen copy of the newest pics there...

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2001\05\05@050503 by Peter L. Peres

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>Hmmm...  What kinds of prices/qtys are they quoting you?

More important, do they use normal PIC development tools ?
(thet ad has been there for minimum 3 years afaik).

Peter

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2001\05\06@233657 by steve
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> Hello all,
>
> today I stumbled on an ad in the "Asiansources - electronic
> components" journal. A company called G-Alantic Enterprise offers
> Microcontrollers, and they give PIC 16C54, 55, 56, 57 and 16C711 as
> compatible products, stating that these controllers are 100%
> compatible with PICs. Their Website is at http://www.g-alantic.com.tw. Anyone
> ever tested these? Do they work as good and reliable as PICs? Are they
> priced competitively?

I've used them. A few years ago now.
They're not really 100% compatible (depending on your definition).
They are pin compatible and have extra instructions over the
equivalent PIC part. Their programmer will read a PIC hex file and
translate directly to their binary format so you can develop for a PIC
and directly program their parts. Just not with a Microchip
programmer.
If you go to the native assembler, you can squeeze a bit more in.
Power consumption is good and the one part does down to 2.5V
without needing an LP part which was why I looked at them at the
time.
Pricing was very good. The main disadvantages are those common
to many parts out of Asia like language/culture issues, MOQ's,
leadtimes and the assumption that you'll be going to mask next
week.

Steve.

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