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'[PIC]: Can a PIC switch fast enough to harm memory'
2002\01\28@060937 by Nicholas Irias

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Some memory chips have warnings about fast bus transceivers causing
undershooting at inputs to the memory chips.  This apparently is due to
inductance in the PCB trace, and a lack of clamping diodes on the
transceivers.

Is it safe to assume that transistions on PIC output pins are slow
enough that this isnt a problem?  In other words, is it safe to directly
connect PIC outputs to RAM or FLASH chips of the same voltage?

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2002\01\28@065313 by Dave Dilatush

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Nicholas Irias wrote...

>Some memory chips have warnings about fast bus transceivers causing
>undershooting at inputs to the memory chips.  This apparently is due to
>inductance in the PCB trace, and a lack of clamping diodes on the
>transceivers.
>
>Is it safe to assume that transistions on PIC output pins are slow
>enough that this isnt a problem?  In other words, is it safe to directly
>connect PIC outputs to RAM or FLASH chips of the same voltage?

Checking the data sheet for the PIC16F877, Microchip lists output port
pin rise and fall times of 10 nanoseconds minimum and 40 nanoseconds
maximum.  For the PIC18C452, it's 10 to 25 ns.  Those are pretty slow
rise and fall times, and with these kinds of numbers I wouldn't expect
to have significant undershoot/overshoot problems.

If you really want to make sure there aren't any problems you can put
resistors in the lines going between the PIC and the memories, at either
end.  Fifty ohms should do.

Hope this helps...

Dave

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