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2002\01\21@215226 by Keith Christopher

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If you send some text out the serial pin to a inverted
TTL 232 rx, why does that then draw the rx pin below
232 levels ?



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2002\01\21@221745 by Larry Kayser

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Keith:

>If you send some text out the serial pin to a inverted
>TTL 232 rx, why does that then draw the rx pin below
>232 levels ?


The 16F628 output is wrong side up for use with say a MAX232, you have to
put something like a 7400 to invert the TX output so it will talk to a PC
properly.  UGH.

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2002\01\21@222717 by David Duffy

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>Keith asked:
>>If you send some text out the serial pin to a inverted
>>TTL 232 rx, why does that then draw the rx pin below
>>232 levels ?

Larry replied:
>The 16F628 output is wrong side up for use with say a MAX232, you have to
>put something like a 7400 to invert the TX output so it will talk to a PC
>properly.  UGH.

You may want to check that. No inverter required at all.
The 16F628 works correctly with a MAX232 or indeed a MAX485.
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2002\01\21@235125 by Keith Christopher

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I'm seeing (direct rb3) to RX on 232 lvl, I get the
message but once the message is sent no other i/o to
RX pin, put the meter on it voltages were in the mV
range.


Weird, like the pic after sending the msg is acting
like a pull down.

Keith
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2002\01\22@002452 by David Duffy

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Keith wrote:
>I'm seeing (direct rb3) to RX on 232 lvl, I get the
>message but once the message is sent no other i/o to
>RX pin, put the meter on it voltages were in the mV
>range.
>
>Weird, like the pic after sending the msg is acting
>like a pull down.

Do you have the RS232 levels going into the PIC directly?
I hope not. Maybe I misunderstood?
Hang on... why are you using RB3 for serial comms?
You could just use the on-board UART couldn't you?
Do you have LV programming enabled & are using RB4?
Is this assembler code or a basic stamp type of thing?
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2002\01\22@003639 by Keith Christopher

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Actually I'm using a 16F84A 10mhz. I am using pic
basic. I had asm code but man picbasic is short and
sweet.





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2002\01\22@005650 by David Duffy

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Keith wrote:
>Actually I'm using a 16F84A 10mhz. I am using pic
>basic. I had asm code but man picbasic is short and
>sweet.

OK, I thought it was a 'F628 not an 'F84A.
So do you have the RS232 levels going into the PIC?

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2002\01\22@011305 by Keith Christopher

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I have rb3 connected directly to rx.



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2002\01\22@012011 by David Duffy

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Keith wrote:
>I have rb3 connected directly to rx.

You need a MAX232 or similar chip to interface the PIC to
the RS232 line as the levels required are quite different.
The MAX232 has 2x RS232 transmitters and receivers.
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2002\01\22@045246 by Vasile Surducan
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maybe you need to read something, it's easy and written like a story:
http://www.myke.com/pdfs/0071341862_ch23.pdf
then to see this code:
www.geocities.com/vsurducan/electro/PIC/jseriala.txt
and after that to connect two f84 usig that serial code without any
level adapters.
regards, Vasile

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