Post by thread:[PIC]: Thoughts about the "BFMP" programmer for 10

Hi. I noticed that Microchip is asking 18.77 EUR (aprox $25 USR) for the BFMR "PG164101 - Baseline Flash Microcontroller Programmer" http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en020756 I'm seriously thinking about ordering one of those as a "reference" programmer for the 10F's. Has anyone looked more closely at this programmer ? Regards, Jan-Erik

Hi again... Just a minor update :-) I tried to run through enough steps in the ordering process just to get the total. And the total cost raised from 18.77 EUR to 67.21 EUR (apeox $90 USD) after the following was added : Base price : 18.77 EUR Shipping : 25.00 EUR (aprox 33 USD) Handling : 10.00 EUR (!) VAT : 13.44 EUR Well well... Jan-Erik. > {Original Message removed}

Jan-Erok, On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:48:33 +0100 (MET), Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > I tried to run through enough steps in the ordering process > just to get the total. And the total cost raised from 18.77 EUR > to 67.21 EUR (apeox $90 USD) after the following was added : > > Base price : 18.77 EUR > Shipping : 25.00 EUR (aprox 33 USD) > Handling : 10.00 EUR (!) > VAT : 13.44 EUR "Buy Microchip" really don't like small orders! The "Handling" charge will be because the value of the order is less than a certain amount. I recently ordered a number of items from them, and was charged UK£12 (about US$23) shipping, but I ordered enough to avoid the handling charge (which would have been UK£10 I think). But that shipping charge is pretty awful considering it weighed less than 1kg, and travelled less than 50 miles - I could have sent it to the USA by airmail ("small packet") for that. They used "UPS Saver Express" - I'm glad they used a "Saver" option! I presume the shipping for you is from outside Sweden, so it costs more still... Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

Jan-Erik, Apparently Mchip isn't to fond of international orders. This is what the quote me for S/H: (I'm in the states) Base Total: (USD) 25.00 Discounts: (USD) 0.00 Subtotal: (USD) 25.00 Shipping: (USD) 8.20 Handling: (USD) 0.00 TAX: (USD) 0.00 Total: (USD) 33.20 If you're interested contact me off list and we'll arrange for me to buy it and ship it to you global priority. firmware AT tds DOT net -Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan-Erik Soderholm" <spam_OUTjan-erik.soderholmTakeThisOuTtelia.com> To: <.....piclistKILLspam@spam@mit.edu> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [PIC]: Thoughts about the "BFMP" programmer for 10F's ? {Quote hidden}> Hi again... > Just a minor update :-) > > I tried to run through enough steps in the ordering process > just to get the total. And the total cost raised from 18.77 EUR > to 67.21 EUR (apeox $90 USD) after the following was added : > > Base price : 18.77 EUR > Shipping : 25.00 EUR (aprox 33 USD) > Handling : 10.00 EUR (!) > VAT : 13.44 EUR > > Well well... > Jan-Erik. > > > {Original Message removed}

> I tried to run through enough steps in the ordering process > just to get the total. And the total cost raised from 18.77 EUR > to 67.21 EUR (apeox $90 USD) after the following was added : Don't you have a local Microchip agent who can get it in as part of normal component delivery ?

Denny Esterline wrote : > Jan-Erik, > Apparently Mchip isn't to fond of international orders. This > is what the quote me for S/H: (I'm in the states) > > Base Total: (USD) 25.00 > Discounts: (USD) 0.00 > Subtotal: (USD) 25.00 > Shipping: (USD) 8.20 > Handling: (USD) 0.00 > TAX: (USD) 0.00 > > Total: (USD) 33.20 > > > If you're interested contact me off list and we'll arrange > for me to buy it and ship it to you global priority. List, FYI... I've taken Denny's offer, and he was able to order a BFMP and send it from the US to Sweden for less then *half* the cost that I'd have to pay to order it from the UK to Sweden ($40 vs. $90). And with shorter delivery time since it was backordered in the UK... :-) Regards, Jan-Erik.

part 1 513 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 (decoded 7bit) Hi. Thanks to Denny Esterline, my BFMP programmer arrived today. I loaded the CD and, nothing happend. The PC just hang. I removed the CD and found out that, well see attached image. :-) Now, I have searched around the MC site, but can not for my life find a online download copy of the "PICkit1 Baseline Flash Programming PC application" that should have been on the CD. I can't even find a page with the PICkit1... Anyone having a link ? Regards, Jan-Erik. part 2 26035 bytes content-type:image/pjpeg; name=d.JPG (decode) part 3 35 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (decoded 7bit)

Jan-Erik: On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:06:32 +0100 (MET), Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Hi. > Thanks to Denny Esterline, my BFMP programmer arrived today. > I loaded the CD and, nothing happend. The PC just hang. > I removed the CD and found out that, well see attached image. :-) Ah, the old exploding CD ploy! :-) > Now, I have searched around the MC site, but can not for my > life find a online download copy of the "PICkit1 Baseline > Flash Programming PC application" that should have been > on the CD. I can't even find a page with the PICkit1... > > Anyone having a link ? No, but I have a BFMP (probably wouldn't have happened if you'd bought it from me :-) with its CD. If you can't find it I could create an .ISO of the CD and send it to you, then you could burn your own CD from that - but it's about 100MB so I hope you've got a fast line... Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

Howard Winter wrote : > > Anyone having a link ? > > No, but I have a BFMP (probably wouldn't have happened if > you'd bought it from me :-) with its CD. If you > can't find it I could create an .ISO of the CD and send it to > you, then you could burn your own CD from that - > but it's about 100MB so I hope you've got a fast line... > > Cheers, Hi and thanks for the offer. Later I did found the "Baseline Flash prog PC app" at the Microchip site and have it installed. That kit was about 3-4 Mb's. What's in the rest of the aprox 100 Mb's on your CD ? If it's only downloadable material (such as data sheets) I see no reason to copy it. And, besides, I'm currently on a V56 modem line. (Yes, that's the best my phone/Internet provider can offer where I live..) Regards, Jan-Erik

Jan-Erik, On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:25:07 +0100 (MET), Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >...< > Hi and thanks for the offer. > > Later I did found the "Baseline Flash prog PC app" at the > Microchip site and have it installed. > > That kit was about 3-4 Mb's. What's in the rest of > the aprox 100 Mb's on your CD ? If it's only downloadable > material (such as data sheets) I see no reason to copy it. I imagine it's all downloadable, if you can find your way around Microchip's web site... it looks like as well as the BFMP stuff it has the software, techical documentation and manuals for the PICkit 1, a tutorial, software and manuals for the "PICtail Signal Analysis board" (add-on board for the PICkit), 28MB of Application Notes, 35MB of Data Sheets, a copy of Adobe Acrobat Reader, and a thing for getting Boy Scouts out of Horses' Hooves! :-) > And, besides, I'm currently on a V56 modem line. > (Yes, that's the best my phone/Internet provider can offer where I live..) Ah... probably a bad idea then. I won't mention my 2Mbps ADSL line - it'll just sound like I'm bragging.... :-) Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England