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2005\09\21@205604 by Up2l8n/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, Up2l8 wrote:

Armed and ready with my new SX key and an assortment of chips, I am ready to enjoy my SX experience in all of its 75mhz glory!

Being new to the scene I am sure to have several "stupid" questions... Hey, I'm a pic guy. i need re-educating  :confused:  My first stupid question-


The 2k program space has me a tad concerned, I've generally worked with 8-14k pics.
How do folks work around that?  Can SX chips load external instructions from an eeprom?


I know alot of resonses are likely to be "you would be surprised what you can do with 2k/4k if you program intelligently..." and I'm sure I would.  But I still would like to ask my stupid question  :p  

Eric
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2005\09\21@211644 by pearl62n/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, pearl62 wrote:

There's really no way to execute from external memory directly. The SX doesn't present it's internal buses to the outside world. With an interpreter running on the SX then you can run from external code, but it will be a lot slower. The stamps are an example of that...

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2005\09\21@234722 by PJMontyn/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, PJMonty wrote:

Eric,
Most of the time, worrying about too little code space before you start a project is like optimizing code before you finish writing the whole project - usually not necessary.  What kinds of projects are you thinking of doing?  If you have something that requires a ton of text, you may find a need for external memory to hold the strings.  Also, writing in assembly will stretch the 2K of memory quite far.  
Anyway, start working on a project and then see if you run out of memory.  If you do, post some specific questions here and I'm sure you'll find there are ways to save memory that you might not have thought of.

[list]Thanks,
PeterM[/list]
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2005\09\22@040644 by beann/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, bean wrote:

Eric,
 You could also use the SX48/52 Proto boards. The SX48/52 has 4K of code and about twice the RAM of the SX28.

 But you can do alot in 2K for example the SX-Video module uses only the SX28, okay big deal, BUT the character dot patterns are using 896 of the 2K program space. And except for the video generation code, it's written in SX/B.

Bean.

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2005\09\22@084410 by g_daubachn/a
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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, g_daubach wrote:

Eric,
have a look at this spec list for a DC motor controller:

- PWM-control three full H-bridge power drivers for DC motors
- Allow for reversing the motor's direction of rotation
- Receive commands, and send status information via I²C
- Monitor the status of reference and end-position sensors for all three motors
- Count tacho pulses generated by the motors, and stop them when the requested target position has been reached
- Check for over-current on the three motor supply lines
- Check for "blocked" conditions, i.e. a motor is supposed to turn but no tacho pulses are generated
- Check for "master-timeouts", i.e. no status information requested by the I²C master within a certain period of time
- Do a "soft start", i.e. slowly increase the motor PWM signal's duty cycle from 0% up to the requested value
- Drive an LED indicating the current status of the module
I could implement all these features using an SX28 with its program memory limited to 2 kWords, and the available RAM space. I still have some free memory left for more features. I must admit, this was the most challenging project I ever did with an SX28 but it turned out to work w/o problems. In the meantime, I could produce and sell more than 300 of these controllers to one of my customers.

I also have some PIC background (Atmel and other controllers as well) but I really like the SX because of its speed and flexibility. I'm pretty sure, you'll like it as well, so welcome to the club :-) .

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2005\09\22@130605 by Up2l8n/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, Up2l8 wrote:

After I posted I realized that it was indeed a stupid question since as Stephen mentioned the SX internal busses are not ported out.

Thanks for the replies - usually when I run out of space it is font sets / bitmaps for LCDs and things like that.

But can always use my 512K serial eeproms for that stuff.


Does anyone know if there is any work being done to flesh out the SX line?  The chips that they have, while versatile, are begging to have brethren :D

Eric
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2005\09\22@150540 by Coriolisn/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, Coriolis wrote:

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will answer your question, the die is static.

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2005\09\23@113849 by cbmeeksn/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, cbmeeks wrote:

[Quoting: "Guenther Daubach"]Eric,
In the meantime, I could produce and sell more than 300 of these controllers to one of my customers.

Just curious...how much would a unit cost?

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2005\09\23@164715 by Up2l8n/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, Up2l8 wrote:

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will answer your question, the die is static.
Oho!  Guess we just need to wait for gen2 chips!

Eric
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2005\09\24@022652 by g_daubachn/a

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In SX Microcontrollers, SX/B Compiler and SX-Key Tool, g_daubach wrote:

cbmeeks,
one unit sells for US$ 160.00 + S/H.

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