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2009\06\26@184657 by Russell McMahon

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THE most interesting and varied collection of "classic* computing equipment"
I have encountered - especially in NZ.
(* Almost not an oxymoron here).
Even the uninitiated may almost marvel at this.

Valves from Colossus ... . !!!
(Related to 'Grass of Parnassus'?)

Osborne One (just like mine but his still goes)
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=225886719
And MUCH more.
Here http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=146982

Who is he?
What's the book?
Where can I SEE this stuff?
MOTAT? (Museum of Transport & Technology)

Message exchange below.
And list of equipment that he is selling.

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*I SAID:*

  Alas only an interested onlooker - but impressed with the equipment you
are selling. Is this a private museum collection or ??? Are you retaining
more than what we see here (hopefully so :-) ). I have an Osborne 1 (dead
but I'm sure it will live again), original IBM PC + printer, IBM laptop,
ZX81 (+ZX80 too?), Core memory calculator, wire memory, various core
memories, Hazeltine 1500, Rotary exchange bits (nothing complete), ... . But
nothing to match your collection!!!

*HE REPLIED *
  I actually acquired the collection to illustrate a book, and then it was
a museum exhibition for a year, and the whole time I had been hoping to
place the collection somewhere where it could be displayed ... but nothing
emerged, it's eating it's value in storage costs, and I'm resigned to
dispersing of it. I have more than one of most stuff, so the listings here
don't really make much of a dent in the collection, but how many NeXT
machines can I use? I have valves from Colossus, core memory etc

DEC, NEXT, VAX, Atari, Lambda (?!), ...

Sorted by name and then by start price.
No "utter bargains".
Some marvellous stuff for anyone who cared.
"Osborne One" portable would be top for me, and I have one :-).

   $50
Acorn Electron  $500
Apple G4 Cube Mint & Boxed  $50
Atari 1040 ST  $100
Commodore 64  $200
Compaq Portable I  $200
Compaq Portable III  $200
DEC MicroVax/200 Workstation  $250
DEC PDP 11/04  $100
DEC Rainbow  $100
IBM 5140 Convertible PC  $100
IBM 5170 PC/AT  $250
IBM PC Jr  $200
IBM System/36  $75
Intel MCS85 Kit  $50
Lambda  $100
Motorola 6808 Development Kit  $200
NEC 8001B  $1,000
NeXT Cube  $500
NeXT Slab  $200
Osborne Portable  $100
Radius VideoVision  $50
Science Fair Project  $200
Sun Sparc Classic collect the set!  $250
SUN SparcServer 630MP    $50
Acorn Electron  $50
Atari 1040 ST  $50
Lambda  $50
Science Fair Project  $75
Intel MCS85 Kit  $100
Commodore 64  $100
DEC Rainbow  $100
IBM 5140 Convertible PC  $100
IBM 5170 PC/AT  $100
Motorola 6808 Development Kit  $100
Radius VideoVision  $200
Compaq Portable I  $200
Compaq Portable III  $200
DEC MicroVax/200 Workstation  $200
IBM System/36  $200
NEC 8001B  $200
Osborne Portable  $200
Sun Sparc Classic collect the set!  $250
DEC PDP 11/04  $250
IBM PC Jr  $250
SUN SparcServer 630MP  $500
Apple G4 Cube Mint & Boxed  $500
NeXT Slab  $1,000

NeXT Cube

2009\06\26@190811 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Jun 26, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Russell McMahon wrote:

> I actually acquired the collection to illustrate a book, and then it  
> was
> a museum exhibition for a year, and the whole time I had been hoping  
> to
> place the collection somewhere where it could be displayed ... but  
> nothing
> emerged, it's eating it's value in storage costs, and I'm resigned to
> dispersing of it.

This sort of thing is awfully common, and is a major reason why I'm  
not inclined any more to donate "collectors items" to people looking  
to do a particular (probably one-time) show of old equipment.  Rumor  
has it that a large portion of stuff collected for one "cisco history"  
display ended up being thrown away, and that a WORKING PDP6 mainframe  
donated to the Computer History Museum (in the heart of silicon  
valley, more or less) ended up being cut up into pieces of circuit  
board that were sold off in the gift shop.  Sigh.

On the flip side, it looks like I might be collecting some nice framed  
cisco history relevant to my own career as they clean it out of the  
warehouse ("Does anybody want this?  Otherwise we're throwing it away!")

BillW

2009\06\26@201948 by cdb

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Hah! He doesn't have an Apricot or an Amstrad or even a Zenith.

Mind you neither do I :)

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2009\06\26@202936 by Russell McMahon

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Hah! He doesn't have an Apricot or an Amstrad or even a Zenith.
Mind you neither do I :)

Nor I.
Bit I do have a BBC (I think), maybe a VIC20 or two (but they may have
gone), and a few olde olde Macs.

          Russell

2009\06\26@205221 by Neil Cherry

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Russell McMahon wrote:
> THE most interesting and varied collection of "classic* computing equipment"
> I have encountered - especially in NZ.

Hmm, at least I can compete. :-) I have half of these in my office!

In my AT&T Labs office:

Rockwell AIM 65
Z80 Starter Kit
Z80 Hardware emulator
MC68000 STK <- Could use this for a MAC (it has 4K of RAM)
MC6800 Dev kit
MC6809 Dev kit
HP41
A few boards I developed
ZX81
an unopened/unassembled TS1000
and an un opened

I just got the "Motorola 6808 Development Kit", it's a Heath Kit
6808 Dev kit

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2009\06\26@212643 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Jun 26, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Neil Cherry wrote:

> ZX81

My ZX81 (actually, one I gave to my mother) had the flexible membrane  
of its keyboard decompose to the point where it fell apart when  
flexed :-(

BillW

2009\06\26@222404 by John Gardner

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> had the flexible membrane
of its keyboard decompose to the point where it fell apart when
flexed :-(

Uh oh - Better dig mine out & see if its pau...

Built a SWTP 6800 system in '76, got transferred to Hawaii; never
saw it again.

Best Back-In-The-Day memory though is going to work with my Dad
late 50s-early 60s at the Bureau of Standards - They had a modular
vacuum tube computer - One building was the power supply & HVAC,
the other was the CPU & memory.

Or so memory claims.

They were building a solid-state replacement for it as well; One floor of
one of the buildings, a triumph of miniaturization.

Big Iron. Charles Babbage would've been stoked.

Jack



On 6/26/09, William "Chops" Westfield <westfwspamKILLspammac.com> wrote:
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2009\06\26@233254 by Chris Gavin-Egan

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I have an Osborne like the one in the auction - i've had quite a few of
those machines and all of the sinclair stuff including, zx80, 81,spectrum,
QL, Z88 and a sinclair c5 (well 15 of those) oh and i still have 3 Z88's
which are still quite remarkable in many ways.

But the Osborne stays in the loft but still boots up ok!!!

Wish i had the money to bid on some of those bits and bobs

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2009\06\27@003019 by AGSCalabrese

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www.thedigitalgroup.org

I owned 10% of  "the digital group" in 1975 and I did some of the  
design and repair and phone support and shipping.
I do not retain anything from that era.   tdg competed with Apple,  
SWTP, Altair and others.
Gus


2009\06\27@003633 by Russell McMahon

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It would be interesting (if not actually useful [tm] ) to make a list of all
the old stuff like this that people on list had.

To my prior list add 2? x Z88. And more yet to be recalled.


                 Russell



2009/6/27 Chris Gavin-Egan <.....chrisKILLspamspam.....gavin-egan.com>

> I have an Osborne like the one in the auction - i've had quite a few of
> those machines and all of the sinclair stuff including, zx80, 81,spectrum,
> QL, Z88 and a sinclair c5 (well 15 of those) oh and i still have 3 Z88's
> which are still quite remarkable in many ways.
>
> But the Osborne stays in the loft but still boots up ok!!!
>
> Wish i had the money to bid on some of those bits and bobs
>

2009\06\27@021235 by Chris Gavin-Egan

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Hey thats 5 z88's in about 2km ! LOL
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2009\06\27@025819 by Dario Greggio

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Russell McMahon ha scritto:
> It would be interesting (if not actually useful [tm] ) to make a list of all
> the old stuff like this that people on list had.

Commodore 128+ disk drive 1541 (1985), Archimedes Acorn (1989)
some Z80 boards home.made

2009\06\27@034758 by J FLETCHER

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I've got an original Jupiter ACE (FORTH), about four more built on PCBs that were sold off when Jupiter Cantab stopped trading, four or five Nascom 1s and a Nascom 2, a Nascom 1 copy built into a card frame in a case with a small green monitor, a Motorola MEK6800D2 development kit and an unbuilt Elektor SC/MP experimenter's board (LEDs/switches). Two or three Camputers Lynxes (96k and 128k) and three ZX81s. Never owned a ZX80 though.
 
John

--- On Sat, 27/6/09, Russell McMahon <KILLspamapptechnzKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:


From: Russell McMahon <RemoveMEapptechnzTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TECH]:: Classic computing
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <spamBeGonepiclistspamBeGonespammit.edu>
Date: Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 5:36 AM


It would be interesting (if not actually useful [tm] ) to make a list of all
the old stuff like this that people on list had.

To my prior list add 2? x Z88. And more yet to be recalled.


                  Russell



2009/6/27 Chris Gavin-Egan <TakeThisOuTchrisEraseMEspamspam_OUTgavin-egan.com>

> I have an Osborne like the one in the auction - i've had quite a few of
> those machines and all of the sinclair stuff including, zx80, 81,spectrum,
> QL, Z88 and a sinclair c5 (well 15 of those) oh and i still have 3 Z88's
> which are still quite remarkable in many ways.
>
> But the Osborne stays in the loft but still boots up ok!!!
>
> Wish i had the money to bid on some of those bits and bobs
>

2009\06\27@165418 by James Holland

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>
> It would be interesting (if not actually useful [tm] ) to make a list of
> all
> the old stuff like this that people on list had.
>
> To my prior list add 2? x Z88. And more yet to be recalled.
>
>
>                   Russell
>
>
>
I have a Microtan 65 or at least the Space Invaders variant that was a
project in Electronics Today International. Alas I have no EPROM.

James

2009\06\28@155449 by John Gardner

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The oldest gizmo I have now is a TI-59, new in '77. Works, last
time I looked - A couple of shoeboxes of mag pgm cards, somewhere.

Sinclair Z80, provenance unknown - Fished it out of a dumpster about
ten years ago. Also works.

Texas Instruments CC40, 1983.

Several TI-74s (1986) - Used daily for general med logging & calculation.
Have used them to control & log data from assorted machine platforms, notably
a cam profiling machine (Mitutoyo SPC outputs, stepper control inputs).

NEC 8201a (1985) -  Kyocera clone. Still useful - Lots of ports, memory, good
docs, an assembler in ROM  - There's even a Small-C compiler for it.

Other pre-'90 artifacts - My Dad's HP-15C, & a Datel 386, dual 150 Mb HDs
with a beautiful IBM 12" color monitor, the sole surviving piece of a PS2...

And their general predecessor - Versalog (1964). I've almost worn off the "POST"
logo on the bottom of the cursor, I see. Other than that, looks &
works like new.

Good fun.

Jack

2009\06\28@165128 by Peter Onion

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UK readers might be interested in a  visit to "The National Museum of
Computing" at Bletchley Park http://www.tnmoc.org/

There are some videos on UouTube of some of their machines in use.
http://www.youtube.com/tnmoc
Thers's even one staring me !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKBNfm5B4U

PeterO


2009\06\29@042810 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Thers's even one staring me !
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKBNfm5B4U

Ah, the joys of paper tape ...

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