>
> I've added a little photo essay page to the site showing the very basics of
> "Manhattan" style construction:
>
> http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcb/manhattan.htm
>
> I would love to get some feedback, updates, further expansion, or ideas.
> Thanks to chuck adams, k7qo and Carel, na5n for permission to use their
> photographs.
>
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>
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:29:38 +0000, "Byron Jeff" <RemoveMEbyronjeffEraseMEEraseMEclayton.edu>
> said:
>
> > On quick typo I saw. Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.
> >
>
> Not if you make a meal out of it!
>
> I really hate the way super glue smoke feels in the eyes - so I don't
> use it on anything I will be soldering. Epoxy is bad enough. Especially
> with the extra heat of lead-free, though that is still the distant
> future for me when applied to prototyping.

> I've added a little photo essay page to the site showing the very basics of
> "Manhattan" style construction:
>
> http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcb/manhattan.htm
>
> I would love to get some feedback, updates, further expansion, or ideas.
> Thanks to chuck adams, k7qo and Carel, na5n for permission to use their
> photographs.
>
> James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin
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>
>  

> I have a web page at www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm
> with Manhattan-style construction, as well a few other techniques I've
> developed.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> James Newton wrote:
> > I've added a little photo essay page to the site showing the very basics
> of
> > "Manhattan" style construction:
> >
> > www.piclist.com/techref/pcb/manhattan.htm
> >
> > I would love to get some feedback, updates, further expansion, or ideas.
> > Thanks to chuck adams, k7qo and Carel, na5n for permission to use their
> > photographs.
> >
> > James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin
> > jamesnewtonSTOPspamspam_OUTpiclist.com  1-619-652-0593 phone
> > http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786
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> >
> >
> >

> Very good idea to use gluing technique when need it but making whole
>  board I do not thing there is enough time for that. By the time we build it
>  it will be time to modify. Specially making pcb's are cheap now. Again
>  I like the gluing technique. Good job
>
>  Andre
>
>
>
>
>

> Perhaps for standard low frequency stuff you are right, but Manhattan and
> other similar techniques are prototyping tools for RF design. You don't
> really need it except for RF.
>
> You cannot use breadboards and similar things for prototype RF multi-GHZ
> circuitry. Once you have your Manhattan board working as expected, you go to
> PCB production from there. In many cases you won't be able to use standard
> PCB as they have a high loss dielectric so PCB production for teflon and
> other materials are quite expensive and typically not available for
> hobbyists.
>
> 2010/5/7 Tamas Rudnai <tamas.rudnaiEraseMEgmail.com>
>
> > What is the advantage of using Manhattan technique? I always thought it
> was
> > used only before PCB etching become available to hobbyists?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tamas
> >
> >
> >

> Won't the extra length of component legs that this method brings with it,
> especially for capacitors, introduce a lot of extra impedance in the
> circuits
> at those frequencies?
>
> /Ruben
>
>
> > Perhaps for standard low frequency stuff you are right, but Manhattan and
> > other similar techniques are prototyping tools for RF design. You don't
> > really need it except for RF.
> >
> > You cannot use breadboards and similar things for prototype RF multi-GHZ
> > circuitry. Once you have your Manhattan board working as expected, you go
> to
> > PCB production from there. In many cases you won't be able to use
> standard
> > PCB as they have a high loss dielectric so PCB production for teflon and
> > other materials are quite expensive and typically not available for
> > hobbyists.
> >
> > 2010/5/7 Tamas Rudnai <@spam@tamas.rudnaiRemoveMEEraseMEgmail.com>
> >
> > > What is the advantage of using Manhattan technique? I always thought it
> > was
> > > used only before PCB etching become available to hobbyists?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Tamas
> > >
> > >
> > >

> At 08:14 PM 5/6/2010, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> >What is the advantage of using Manhattan technique? I always thought it
> was
> >used only before PCB etching become available to hobbyists?
>
> Its quick and easy.  It has good RF performance (up to UHF
> frequencies if you are careful).
>
> I routinely use that technique when I'm adding circuitry to an
> existing design.  For example, one of the mods I do to some of the
> professional wireless intercom systems I work with (broadcast-type
> comm systems) is to add a bias supply to the receive antenna input so
> that a powered (active) receive antenna can be used.  The only place
> that can be done on these particular units is inside the little metal
> can that houses the input bandpass filter.  I use a few little
> (3/16") diameter circles of PCB material glued to the top of the
> existing circuit board to hold all of the components I need to
> add.  The bypass capacitors have extremely short leads - the circles
> are glued to areas of the existing PCB that are all
> ground-plane.  Just scrape away the solder mask and solder the cap
> from the added circle right down to the ground plane.
>
> I've also been known to glue PCB circles right on top of SMT
> components (usually chips).  Those are usually 1/8" diameter circles.
>
> Modern purpose-built prototyping circuit boards have reduced the need
> for Manhattan construction for most low-frequency work as well as
> circuits that use mostly ICs.  But if I don't have the time or
> inclination to design a PCB for a RF project, Manhattan construction
> is probably my first choice.
>
> FWIW - I sit down for fifteen minutes and punch several hundred
> circles out of cleaned PCB material when I get low.  I use a Roper
> Whitney "Junior" 3/16 punch - I purchased a couple of extra punches
> (1/8", 3/16") and ground the centering-tits off so as to punch flat
> circles.  Our local R-W supplier keeps most of the Roper-Whitney
> stuff in stock and the extra punches were only a couple of dollars
> each.  I store the cleaned circles in a small zip-lock baggie - they
> don't oxidize too badly over a one year period.
>
> dwayne
>
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